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22 Oct 2015 22:26 |
she was born Weeton/Dun Keswick,Nr harewood 17-3-1797 a daug to john harper and mary-.......? [ there was another daug b earler called Rebekah she died1795]. Rebekah b 1797 marr a Robert massey at harewood1826 [I think he was b Kirkby overblow about 1800]. Now where they got to after there marr I don't know I have tried the1841/1851 census, and the deaths. after there marr in 1829 they were just not anywhere, I have been throwing this about for a while and getting nowhere a bit of help from you girls is wanted thankyou. very kind regards john harper
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:05 |
Looks like they had at least one child, also called Robert:-
Robert Massey England Births and Christenings Name Robert Massey Gender Male Christening Date 17 Dec 1826 Christening Place HAREWOOD,YORK,ENGLAND Mother's Name Rebecca Massey
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:08 |
also on ancestry:-
Name: Robert Massey Birth Date: 25 Oct 1826 Parish: Harewood, All Saints Search Photos: Search for 'Harewood, All Saints' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Baptism Date: 17 Dec 1826 Father: Massey Mother: Rebecca Massey
Interesting, ancestry show no father's name?
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malyon
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22 Oct 2015 23:10 |
Robert Massey mentioned in the record of Robert Massey and Rebecca Harper Name Robert Massey Spouse's Name Rebecca Harper Event Date 11 Mar 1826 Event Place Harewood,York,England
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malyon
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22 Oct 2015 23:15 |
rebecca could have married again
Rebecca Masee England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005 marriage: 1861 Pocklington, Yorkshire, England
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:16 |
I'm wondering if this is the son:-
Name: Robert Massy Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Guiseley Hundred: Skyrack (Upper Division) County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Otley Sub-registration district: Yeadon Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1313 Book: 2 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Robert Massy 14
He's living with the Busfield family. Head of house is John Busfield (clothier) aged 35yrs. and his wife is Rebecca aged 40yrs Could be that Rebecca remarried????
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:18 |
Name: Rebecca Busfield Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Guiseley Hundred: Skyrack (Upper Division) County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Otley Sub-registration district: Yeadon Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1313 Book: 2 Folio: 8 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age John Busfield 35 Rebecca Busfield 40 Charles Busfield 7 Mary Busfield 5 Rebecca Busfield 4 Mo
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:19 |
Rebecca Massey mentioned in the record of John Busfield and Rebecca Massey Name John Busfield Spouse's Name Rebecca Massey Event Date 29 Dec 1833 Event Place Leeds, York, England
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:21 |
Same family in 1851, just in case:-
Name: Rebecca Busfield Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1797 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Busfield Gender: Female Where born: Dunkewick, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Guiseley Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Otley Sub-registration district: Yeadon ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 200 Piece: 2285 Folio: 83 Page Number: 62 Household Members: Name Age John Busfield 49 Rebecca Busfield 54 Charles Busfield 16 Mary Busfield 15
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:24 |
Just for ref:-
Name: Rebecca Harper Marriage or Bann Date: 17 Mar 1826 Parish: Harewood, All Saints, Yorkshire, England Search Photos: Search for 'Harewood, All Saints' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Spouse: Robert Massey Witness:- John Harper Jonathan Lewis Ann Nicholson
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malyon
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22 Oct 2015 23:25 |
this could be the son robert
Go To: Search Results COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree Robt Massa England and Wales Census, 1841 Name Robt Massa Event Type Census Event Date 1841 Event Place Brompton, Yorkshire,Yorkshire North Riding, England Residence Note Low Field Gender Male Age 15-19 Age (Original) 15 Birth Year (Estimated) 1826-1830 Birthplace Yorkshire Registration District Scarborough Book Number 2 Parish Brompton County Yorkshire,Yorkshire North Riding Page Number 14 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 1260/20 Affiliate Record Type Household
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:38 |
Possible siblings for Rebecca:-
William Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 3 February 1802 christening: 11 April 1802 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Frank Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 14 August 1805 christening: 29 September 1805 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Abraham Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 15 February 1808 christening: 10 April 1808 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Hannah Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 25 October 1794 christening: 30 November 1794 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Sarah Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 4 June 1810 christening: 30 September 1810 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
John Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 2 October 1798 christening: 29 September 1799 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Rebekah Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 17 March 1797 christening: 16 April 1797 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Isaac Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 3 October 1813 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Hugh Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 3 April 1804 christening: 27 May 1804 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:41 |
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England, Cheshire, Marriage Bonds and Allegations Name John Harper Event Type Intended marriage Event Date 12 Feb 1793 Residence Place Woodside, Shepton, York Gender Male Spouse's Name Mary Dudgale
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John
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23 Oct 2015 00:16 |
thank you ladies I had look at busfield thought no, she did marr massey1826 he must have died. Massey I don't know where he came from or what his job was, thanks Catherine malyon early 1800s no train,buses her dad a tenant farmer little money and pocklington about 25 miles away, I once had a long talk to some lady at leeds record office she said yes girl and boys did travel [courting] 4 maybe 5 miles each but 25 ???? don't write it off yet if I don't get anymore answers I will make do with your replys which is 100% more than I got.
a thankyou for you all and kind regards john
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Potty
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23 Oct 2015 12:23 |
One way to confirm that the Rebecca married to John Busfield was nee Harper would be to get the birth cert for the baby Rebecca on the 1841 - she died the next year:
Births Mar 1841 BUSFIELD Rebecca Otley 23 485
Deaths Dec 1842 BUSFIELD Rebecca Otley 23 312
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Potty
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23 Oct 2015 12:32 |
Ancestry has an image of the 1833 marriage - Rebecca is shown as a Spinster. Both are said to be of Chapel Allerton; witnesses: John Holmes & Sarah Harper.
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Potty
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23 Oct 2015 12:39 |
Ancestry also has an image of the 1826 marriage - Rebecca's first name in her signature looks identical - both times she spells it Rebeck and the capital R is quite distinctive.
I wonder why she is described as Spinster and not Widow?
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Potty
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23 Oct 2015 13:02 |
This could be Robert's death:
Name:Robert Massey Death Age:23 Birth Year:abt 1803 Burial Date:13 Sep 1826 Parish:Kirkby Overblow, Yorkshire, England
On the image, he is a Cordwainer, of Weton in the Parish of Harewood.
The image of Robert junior's baptism does not give a father's name, just son of Rebecca Massey of Weeton.
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Catherine
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23 Oct 2015 14:15 |
Death looks good to me. That is probably why she didn't put father's name down on the birth record of son Robert.
All seems to fit nicely, but how sad. Married March 1826, widowed in September 1826 and son born in the December. Maybe she said she was spinster when she remarried because she had only been married for a few months.
If the death is correct then this would be a likely candidate for his birth:-
Robert Massey England Births and Christenings Name Robert Massey Gender Male Christening Date 05 Sep 1803 Christening Place KIRKBY OVERBLOW,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name Wm. Massey Mother's Name Ann
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Catherine
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23 Oct 2015 15:44 |
As Potty points out that one of Rebecca's witnesses on 1833 marriage is Sarah Harper, then that would look to be one of the siblings in the list I posted earlier. All looking good.
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