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Catherine
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25 Oct 2015 11:35 |
Thanks for the update John. I, personally, help out because I love doing the research and helping out if I can, but it's always nice to be thanked so thank you for showing your appreciation, not everybody does. :-)
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John
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24 Oct 2015 22:18 |
potty/cathrine I have been pokeing around busfields and where they live guiseley this is funny in 1851 guiseley john busfield and wife Rebecca [ nee harper] are living on a road called GREEN BOTTOM guiseley on this road also lives his father Samuel age 65 and johns sidlings sam is a widower,also on this road lives john brother Samuel age 26 now remember Rebecca b 1797 weeton,now this road is not very long and somewhere on that road lives rebeccas nephew Abraham harper he is marr and got a family. And at the leeds end is a hotel called the regents hotel where her g/nephew john harper runs its is still there I have had a beer there, it now has a new name its called NEW ROAD part of my family come from guiseley the houses and shops are pretty modern 1940 s ISH. there are lots of harpers in guiseley just thought I would let you know regards john
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Potty
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24 Oct 2015 12:29 |
You're welcome, John.
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John
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24 Oct 2015 00:18 |
potty/cath and you all thankyou very much, most of that is going to my tree john
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John
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24 Oct 2015 00:06 |
potty and cath you are both great people it is now looking good and I will put it on my tree
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP john
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Catherine
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23 Oct 2015 15:44 |
As Potty points out that one of Rebecca's witnesses on 1833 marriage is Sarah Harper, then that would look to be one of the siblings in the list I posted earlier. All looking good.
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Catherine
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23 Oct 2015 14:15 |
Death looks good to me. That is probably why she didn't put father's name down on the birth record of son Robert.
All seems to fit nicely, but how sad. Married March 1826, widowed in September 1826 and son born in the December. Maybe she said she was spinster when she remarried because she had only been married for a few months.
If the death is correct then this would be a likely candidate for his birth:-
Robert Massey England Births and Christenings Name Robert Massey Gender Male Christening Date 05 Sep 1803 Christening Place KIRKBY OVERBLOW,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name Wm. Massey Mother's Name Ann
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Potty
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23 Oct 2015 13:02 |
This could be Robert's death:
Name:Robert Massey Death Age:23 Birth Year:abt 1803 Burial Date:13 Sep 1826 Parish:Kirkby Overblow, Yorkshire, England
On the image, he is a Cordwainer, of Weton in the Parish of Harewood.
The image of Robert junior's baptism does not give a father's name, just son of Rebecca Massey of Weeton.
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Potty
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23 Oct 2015 12:39 |
Ancestry also has an image of the 1826 marriage - Rebecca's first name in her signature looks identical - both times she spells it Rebeck and the capital R is quite distinctive.
I wonder why she is described as Spinster and not Widow?
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Potty
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23 Oct 2015 12:32 |
Ancestry has an image of the 1833 marriage - Rebecca is shown as a Spinster. Both are said to be of Chapel Allerton; witnesses: John Holmes & Sarah Harper.
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Potty
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23 Oct 2015 12:23 |
One way to confirm that the Rebecca married to John Busfield was nee Harper would be to get the birth cert for the baby Rebecca on the 1841 - she died the next year:
Births Mar 1841 BUSFIELD Rebecca Otley 23 485
Deaths Dec 1842 BUSFIELD Rebecca Otley 23 312
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John
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23 Oct 2015 00:16 |
thank you ladies I had look at busfield thought no, she did marr massey1826 he must have died. Massey I don't know where he came from or what his job was, thanks Catherine malyon early 1800s no train,buses her dad a tenant farmer little money and pocklington about 25 miles away, I once had a long talk to some lady at leeds record office she said yes girl and boys did travel [courting] 4 maybe 5 miles each but 25 ???? don't write it off yet if I don't get anymore answers I will make do with your replys which is 100% more than I got.
a thankyou for you all and kind regards john
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:41 |
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England, Cheshire, Marriage Bonds and Allegations Name John Harper Event Type Intended marriage Event Date 12 Feb 1793 Residence Place Woodside, Shepton, York Gender Male Spouse's Name Mary Dudgale
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:38 |
Possible siblings for Rebecca:-
William Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 3 February 1802 christening: 11 April 1802 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Frank Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 14 August 1805 christening: 29 September 1805 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Abraham Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 15 February 1808 christening: 10 April 1808 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Hannah Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 25 October 1794 christening: 30 November 1794 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Sarah Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 4 June 1810 christening: 30 September 1810 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
John Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 2 October 1798 christening: 29 September 1799 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Rebekah Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 17 March 1797 christening: 16 April 1797 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Isaac Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 3 October 1813 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
Hugh Harper England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 3 April 1804 christening: 27 May 1804 HAREWOOD, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Harper mother: Mary
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malyon
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22 Oct 2015 23:25 |
this could be the son robert
Go To: Search Results COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree Robt Massa England and Wales Census, 1841 Name Robt Massa Event Type Census Event Date 1841 Event Place Brompton, Yorkshire,Yorkshire North Riding, England Residence Note Low Field Gender Male Age 15-19 Age (Original) 15 Birth Year (Estimated) 1826-1830 Birthplace Yorkshire Registration District Scarborough Book Number 2 Parish Brompton County Yorkshire,Yorkshire North Riding Page Number 14 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 1260/20 Affiliate Record Type Household
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:24 |
Just for ref:-
Name: Rebecca Harper Marriage or Bann Date: 17 Mar 1826 Parish: Harewood, All Saints, Yorkshire, England Search Photos: Search for 'Harewood, All Saints' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Spouse: Robert Massey Witness:- John Harper Jonathan Lewis Ann Nicholson
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:21 |
Same family in 1851, just in case:-
Name: Rebecca Busfield Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1797 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Busfield Gender: Female Where born: Dunkewick, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Guiseley Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Otley Sub-registration district: Yeadon ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 200 Piece: 2285 Folio: 83 Page Number: 62 Household Members: Name Age John Busfield 49 Rebecca Busfield 54 Charles Busfield 16 Mary Busfield 15
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:19 |
Rebecca Massey mentioned in the record of John Busfield and Rebecca Massey Name John Busfield Spouse's Name Rebecca Massey Event Date 29 Dec 1833 Event Place Leeds, York, England
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:18 |
Name: Rebecca Busfield Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Guiseley Hundred: Skyrack (Upper Division) County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Otley Sub-registration district: Yeadon Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1313 Book: 2 Folio: 8 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age John Busfield 35 Rebecca Busfield 40 Charles Busfield 7 Mary Busfield 5 Rebecca Busfield 4 Mo
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Catherine
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22 Oct 2015 23:16 |
I'm wondering if this is the son:-
Name: Robert Massy Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Guiseley Hundred: Skyrack (Upper Division) County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Otley Sub-registration district: Yeadon Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1313 Book: 2 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Robert Massy 14
He's living with the Busfield family. Head of house is John Busfield (clothier) aged 35yrs. and his wife is Rebecca aged 40yrs Could be that Rebecca remarried????
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