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Michaelena
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16 Oct 2015 12:24 |
I am trying to trace my G/Grandfather who was a Pt in 88th Reg.,6 Rangers in India in 1860's. His wife was named Mary and they had a daughter Margaret in 1862 while stationed in Shajehampore ,would be pleased to hear from any person who could help.
Michaelena
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malyon
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16 Oct 2015 12:49 |
Margaret Burke India Births and Baptisms Name Margaret Burke Gender Female Christening Date 21 May 1862 Christening Place Shajehampore, Bengal, India Birth Date 06 Apr 1862 Father's Name Michael Burke Mother's Name Mary
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malyon
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16 Oct 2015 12:50 |
Margaret Burke mentioned in the record of Arthur Moore and Margaret Burke Name Arthur Moore Birth Date 1852 Age 27 Spouse's Name Margaret Burke Spouse's Birth Date 1862 Spouse's Age 17 Event Date 06 Aug 1879 Event Place Jhansi, Bengal, India Father's Name John Moore Mother's Name Caroline Moore Spouse's Father's Name Michel Burke Spouse's Mother's Name Mary Burke
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ArgyllGran
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16 Oct 2015 13:15 |
Welcome to the boards, Michaelena.
What else do you know about your g-grandfather? DOB? Place of birth? Marriage date or place?
Any little detail might help us trace him. Michael Burke is quite a common name.
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Maddie
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16 Oct 2015 14:05 |
are there other siblings ???
Michael Burke mentioned in the record of Ellen Burke Name Michael Burke Gender Male Wife Mary Daughter Ellen Burke Other information in the record of Ellen Burke from India Births and Baptisms Name Ellen Burke Gender Female Christening Date 13 Oct 1866 Christening Place India Birth Date 19 Sep 1866 Birthplace Jhansie, Bengal, India Father's Name Michael Burke Mother's Name Mary
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Oct 2015 01:34 |
the information on baptisms can be found on the family search site (ie, the Mormon site)
www.familysearch.org
use ONLY the records to get accurate information
India Births and Baptisms 1786-1947
Name Margaret Burke Gender Female Christening Date 21 May 1862 Christening Place Shajehampore, Bengal, India Birth Date 06 Apr 1862 Father's Name Michael Burke Mother's Name Mary
Citing this Record
"India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG34-8RW : accessed 17 October 2015), Michael Burke in entry for Margaret Burke, 21 May 1862; citing , reference v 101 p 383; FHL microfilm 499,006.
I can't yet see a marriage ....................... I wonder if they were possibly married before arriving in India?
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Oct 2015 01:38 |
Burke could be an Irish name
Googling "88th Regiment 6 Ranges" provides all kinds of information .............. indicating that it was indeed an Irish Regiment
from Wikipedia ...........
History
The regiment was raised on 25 September 1793 from the men of Connaught by John Thomas de Burgh, 13th Earl of Clanricard.
The 88th were deployed to India in response to the Indian Mutiny in July 1857 in four detachments. It arrived in Calcutta in November. The Connaught Rangers served in India until 1870.
Soooooooooooooo ...................
it looks as though you should be looking for Irish records.
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MarieCeleste
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17 Oct 2015 10:17 |
There are a few possible sets of service records on FindMyPast so Michaelina needs to provide some further information.
ADDED:
Possibly -
1861 Worldwide Army Index Transcription
First name Michael Last name Burke Service number 850 Rank Private Unit or Regiment 88th Foot (Connaught Rangers) Depot Regiment stationed at Colchester Year 1861 National Archives reference WO12 / 9070
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MarieCeleste
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17 Oct 2015 10:23 |
Slightly different version of the baptism posted by malyon:
British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns- Births & Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) Margaret Last name Burke Baptism year 1862 Birth year 1862 Place Bareilly Presidency Bengal Mother's first name(s) Mary Mother's last name - Father's first name(s) Michael Father's last name Burke Baptism date 21 May 1862 Birth date 06 Apr 1862 Archive reference N-1-101 Folio 383 Page - Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal
On the image, Michael Burke is a PT 88th Regt C Rangers (not 6 Rangers) so that would indeed be the Connaughts.
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ArgyllGran
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17 Oct 2015 13:24 |
The Wikipedia page quoted from by Sylvia also says that the Connaught Rangers "recruited mainly in the province of Connacht"
Looking at Connacht, on Wikipedia, it says it covers Galway, Mayo, Sligo, Roscommon, & Leitrim - doesn't help much to narrow down a search for Michael!
This will be the Michael Burke in Colchester, as per the record posted by MC - it doesn't specify where in Ireland he was born, but does give his age. It also says he's married:
Michael Burke
in the 1861 England Census Name: Michael Burke Age: 27 Estimated birth year: 1834 Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Colchester St Botolph County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward ED, institution, or vessel: Colchester Infantry Barracks Household schedule number: 1 Piece: 1097 Folio: 160 Page Number: 17
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Cynthia
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17 Oct 2015 16:28 |
I'll let Michaelena know how to find her replies :-)
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AustinQ
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17 Oct 2015 16:38 |
There is another Michael Burke at the same barracks in 1861, unmarried, but still a possibility:
Name: Michael Burke Age: 20 Estimated birth year: 1841 Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Colchester St Botolph County/Island: Essex Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward ED, institution, or vessel: Colchester Infantry Barracks Household schedule number: 1 Piece: 1097 Folio: 162 Page Number: 22
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AustinQ
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17 Oct 2015 17:20 |
Is this Margaret with Arthur in 1891?
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Gorton Brook Street, Gorton, Chorlton, Lancashire, England
Arthur Moor Head Married Male 39 1852 Gas Fitters Labourer Nottinghamshire, Margaret Moor Wife Married Female 28 1863 - India Arthur Moor Son Single Male 10 1881 Scholar India Transcription John Moor Son Single Male 7 1884 Scholar Dorchester, Dorset, England Millicent Moor Daughter Single Female 5 1886 Scholar Dorchester, Dorset, England Fred Moor Son Single Male 3 1888 - Dorchester, Dorset, Winefred J Moor Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Lancashire,
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And is this the children in 1901?:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 1, Soapery Street, South Manchester, Chorlton, Lancashire, England
Mary Shanahan Head Widow Female 66 1835 - Ireland Mary A Shanahan Daughter Single Female 27 1874 Waterproof Garment Maker East Indies Arthur Moore Grand Son Single Male 20 1881 Engine Fitter Loco East Indies Frederick Moore Grand Son Single Male 13 1888 Apprentice House Shoe Making Dorchester Winifred Moore Grand Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Manchester, Lancashire, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
So, did Margaret's mother, Mary, marry again? Or is this a different family? Possible remarriage for mother:
British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Transcription name(s) Mary Burke (widow 88th regiment) Marriage date 7 Jan 1865 Spouse's first name Patrick Spouse's last name Shanahan Place Cawnpore Presidency Bengal Groom's age 32 Bride's age 30 Groom's father's first name Michael Bride's father's first name Andrew Archive reference N-1-111 Folio number 190 Record set British India Office marriages
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Oct 2015 17:26 |
I looked at the actual image for Michael Burke age 20, as posted by AustinQ
It states that he is Unmarried.
I would put my vote toward the first Michael Burke, age 34, as a possible, as the image does say Married.
There is always of course a possibility that Michael age 20 married after the census before leaving England.
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AustinQ
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17 Oct 2015 17:39 |
I did state he was listed as unmarried, but that it was still a possibility. -------------------------------------------------------------------------
If above (1901 census) is the correct family, and Mary did remarry, then this is a possible death for Michael:
British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Deaths & Burials Transcription
name(s) Michael Burke (Private H.M. 88) Birth year 1829 Death date 31 Aug 1864 Age 35Y 7M Burial date 31 Aug 1864 Place Lucknow Presidency Bengal Archive Reference N-1-110 Page 192 -----------------------------------------------
Listed again- slightly different year of birth, but same man:
name(s) Michael Burke (Private H M 88th regiment) Birth year 1826 Death date 31 Aug 1864 Age 38 Burial date 01 Sep 1864 Place Cawnpore Presidency Bengal Archive Reference N-1-109 Page 224
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Michaelena
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17 Oct 2015 20:57 |
Thank you for all your replies,I have a copy of Margaret's birth cert and her marriage certificate [both events took place in India] also know that she and her husband died in 1893 in Manchester,the same year my G/Grandmother was born she and her sister Millicent went to live with the Mulryan family in Manchester,think they were her Aunt and Uncle. I have not been able to confirm any details of her parents prior to her birth in India or what happened to them, think she had 2 siblings both girls again no details of their lives. Will check all the infor.you have given me hoping it will take me forward.
Michaelena
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Oct 2015 21:27 |
well, if you have their marriage certificate .............. what is the name of Michael Burke's father, and his occupation?
If you know they both died in 1893 in Manchester, then most of the information found for you is wrong, as the deaths found by AustinQ and others are wrong, as those men died in India and much earlier.
Do you have the death certificates??? The name of the informant is often very helpful.
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Oct 2015 21:39 |
I am confused ................. not an unusual state :-)
In you OP, you say ...............
trying to trace my G/GRANDFATHER who was a Pt in 88th Reg.,6 Rangers in India in 1860's. His wife was named Mary and they had a daughter Margaret in 1862 while stationed in Shajehampore
Then in your second post, you say ................
I have a copy of MARGARET's birth cert and her marriage certificate [both events took place in India] also know that SHE and her husband died in 1893 in Manchester,the same year my G/GrRANDMOTHER was born she and her sister Millicent went to live with the Mulryan family in Manchester
was your great grandmother the daughter of Margaret Burke and her husband??
Was Margaret's husband Arthur Moor(e)?
Are we therefore looking for Margaret's Father?
If so, that means we are looking for your 3 x gr grandfather?
Is that correct?
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Oct 2015 21:47 |
Are these Millicent and your Great-grandmother in 1901???
1901 Census
Name: Millicent L Moore Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation to Head: Niece Gender: Female Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: South Manchester Search Photos: Search for 'South Manchester' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Gorton St Mark County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Ardwick ED, institution, or vessel: 082
Piece: 3685 Folio: 114 Page Number: 10 Household schedule number: 62
Nicholas Mulryan 33 b.ca 1868, Manchester, Iron Turner Fitter Julia Mulryan 33 b.ca 1868, India Julia Mulryan 5 Nicholas Mulryan 1 Millicent L Moore 15 Dressmaker's Apprentice Margaret Moore 7 b.ca 1894, Manchester
Address:- 43 Margaret Street
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Oct 2015 21:52 |
?? Marriage of Nicholas and Julia
Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)
Mulryan Nicholas Chorlton 8c 1271 Shanahan Julia Chorlton 8c 1271
so was Julia the child of Mary Burke by her second husband Patrick Shanahan .......
Marriage found by AustinQ and posted above ............
British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Transcription
name(s) Mary Burke (widow 88th regiment) Marriage date 7 Jan 1865 Spouse's first name Patrick Spouse's last name Shanahan Place Cawnpore Presidency Bengal Groom's age 32 Bride's age 30 Groom's father's first name Michael Bride's father's first name Andrew Archive reference N-1-111 Folio number 190 Record set British India Office marriages
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