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10 Jul 2015 12:54 |
My relative Thomas Oldham Evans 1872-1935 married Margaret Martin in St George, Hyde, on 07/09/1909. According to the 1911 census one child was born and died of this couple. Having used bmd's I am at a loss as to the name of this child. Many thanks
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10 Jul 2015 13:08 |
Name: Mary Evans Event Type: Other Event Date: Event Place: Gender: Female Age (Formatted): Birth Date: 28 Feb 1911 Marital Status: Father's Name: Thomas Oldham Evans Mother's Name: Margaret Evans Spouse's Name: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: GS Film number: 2106996 Digital Folder Number: 004019060 Image Number: 00079
Citing this Record: "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F7JY-NX2 : accessed 10 July 2015), Mary Evans, , Other; citing Page: 100 Record number: 799, , Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2,106,996.
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10 Jul 2015 13:10 |
???? Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1911 Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference EVANS Mary 0 Newton & Godley Tameside NEW/28/80
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10 Jul 2015 13:11 |
Thank you safc much appreciated
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10 Jul 2015 13:13 |
Her death? Ashton district covers Hyde.
Deaths Mar 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evans Mary 0 Ashton 8d 339
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10 Jul 2015 13:17 |
I have her sister Harriet H Evans 1876-1960 marrying Alfred Bentley in 1913 Stockport but no children to this marriage it seems..
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10 Jul 2015 13:56 |
Whose sister? Margaret's maiden name was Martin not Evans.
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10 Jul 2015 14:03 |
Sorry I got confused Thomas Oldham Evans had a sister Harriet 1876 who married Alfred Bentley but I have no dates for Alfred and I cannot find any children for this couple.
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10 Jul 2015 14:06 |
Oh, I see you mean HIS sister:
Harriet H Evans
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Name: Harriet H Evans Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation to Head: Daughter (Child) Gender: Female Mother: Maria Frith Evans Birth Place: Hyde, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Hyde Ecclesiastical parish: Hyde St Thomas Town: Hyde County/Island: Cheshire Country: England
Registration district: Stockport Sub-registration district: Hyde ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3283 Folio: 46 Page Number: 11 Household schedule number: 72 Household Members: Name Age Maria Frith Evans 67 Thomas O Evans 29 Harriet H Evans 27 Maude E Evans 19
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10 Jul 2015 14:16 |
Name: Alfred Bentley Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 14 Jun 1913 Event Place: , Bredbury, Cheshire, England Gender: Male Age (Formatted): 58y Birth Date: Marital Status: Father's Name: John Bentley Mother's Name: Spouse's Name: Harriet Helen Evans Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Father's Name: Edward Evans Spouse's Mother's Name: GS Film number: 2186910 Digital Folder Number: 004019283 Image Number: 00123
Citing this Record: "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3GF-FLS : accessed 10 July 2015), Alfred Bentley and Harriet Helen Evans, 14 Jun 1913, Marriage; citing item 1 p 117, , Bredbury, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2,186,910.
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11 Jul 2015 12:53 |
This is interesting as far as I have known Harriet Helen Evans, her brother Thomas Oldham Evans and Maud Elle Evans my great grandmother were illegitimate, but this record shows there father as Edward Evans, it could of course just be a name to save embarrassment of being recognised as illegitimate.
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11 Jul 2015 14:24 |
Looks like father is Edmund here:
Harriet H Evans
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Name: Harriet H Evans Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Daughter (Child) Father's name: Edmund Evans Mother's name: Maria F Evans Gender: Female Where born: Hyde, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Hyde Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Hyde County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration district: Stockport ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2791 Folio: 96 Page Number: 44 Household Members: Name Age Edmund Evans 58, grocer Maria F Evans 59 Betsy A Evans 25, school mistress Thomas O Evans 19, hatter Harriet H Evans 17, pupil teacher Maud E Evans 10, pupil teacher
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11 Jul 2015 14:28 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 29, Cheapside, Hyde, Stockport, Cheshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Maria Frith Evans Head Married Female 67 1834 - Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Thomas O Evans Son Single Male 29 1872 Property Builder's Manager Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Harriet H Evans Daughter Single Female 27 1874 School Teacher (Church Of England) Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Maude E Evans Grand Daughter Single Female 19 1882 - Hyde, Cheshire, England
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11 Jul 2015 14:32 |
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1855 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference EVANS Edward OLDHAM Maria Frith Mottram in Longdendale, St. Michael Tameside CE31/5/299
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11 Jul 2015 14:33 |
Parents' marriage?
Marriages Sep 1855 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evans Edmund Ashton 8d 707 Oldham Maria Frith Ashton 8d 707
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11 Jul 2015 14:34 |
Name: Edmund Evans Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 14 Aug 1855 Event Place: , Mottram-in-Longdendale, Cheshire, England Gender: Male Age (Formatted): 23y Birth Date: Marital Status: Father's Name: John Evans Mother's Name: Spouse's Name: Maria Frith Oldham Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Father's Name: Alexander Oldham Spouse's Mother's Name: GS Film number: 2103774 Digital Folder Number: 004018947 Image Number: 00853
Citing this Record: "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3P4-B3H : accessed 11 July 2015), Edmund Evans and Maria Frith Oldham, 14 Aug 1855, Marriage; citing item 4 p 150, , Mottram-in-Longdendale, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2,103,774.
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11 Jul 2015 14:37 |
England & Wales Non-conformist births and baptisms Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) Maria Frith Last name Oldham Birth year 1832 Birth date 30 Dec 1832 Baptism year 1833 Baptism date 05 May 1833 Place Stockport Denomination Presbyterian Father's first name(s) Alexander Mother's first name(s) Charlotte County Cheshire Country England Archive reference TNA/RG/4/548 Description CHESHIRE: Stockport, Hyde Chapel (Presbyterian): Births & Baptisms Record set England & Wales Non-conformist births and baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
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11 Jul 2015 14:40 |
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription Print transcription Attach to tree First name(s) Alexander Last name Oldham Name note - Marriage year 1817 Marriage date 16 Jul 1817 Marriage date note married with banns Marriage place Parish Of Glossop, Derby County, England Father's first name(s) - Father's last name - Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte Spouse's last name Frith Spouse's father's first name(s) - Spouse's father's last name - Spouse's mother's first name(s) - Spouse's mother's last name - Residence Glossop, Derbyshire, England Place Glossop County Derbyshire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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11 Jul 2015 14:41 |
I wonder where the info came from that the children were illegitimate?
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11 Jul 2015 14:44 |
Harriet H. in 1911. She's a school teacher. Charlotte Alice is her widowed sister.
Harriet Helen Evans
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Name: Harriet Helen Evans Age in 1911: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Hyde, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Bredbury County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: 11 Station Road Bredenbury Cheshire Marital Status: Single Occupation: At Home Registration district: Stockport Registration District Number: 443 Sub-registration district: Bredbury ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 21343 Household Members: Name Age Harriet Helen Evans 37 Charlotte Alice Fischbacher 52
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