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Carole Mac
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9 Jun 2015 12:35 |
I have a copy of marriage (1895) information but it shows no father's names listed for the husband. If I ordered a marriage certificate would it have more information, or just what I have now from the church record?
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9 Jun 2015 12:46 |
is this the marriage ????
Marriage: 10 Aug 1895 St Cuthbert, Lytham, Lancashire, England Percival Day - 21, Gardener, Bachelor, 15 Henry Street Margaret Ellen Lofthouse - 21, Spinster, 15 Henry Street Bride's Father: William Lofthouse, Drover Witness: William Lofthouse; Jane Lofthouse Married by Banns by: F. G. Harris Notes: [Groom's father's details not entered] Register: Marriages 1896 - 1900, Page 142, Entry 284 Source: LSD Film 1470929
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9 Jun 2015 12:52 |
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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference DAY Percival Benson Lytham Preston DAY LY/8/1
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Carole Mac
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9 Jun 2015 12:53 |
Yes safc. I was trying to find the groom's father's name, his mother seems to be Allanson surname. Thank you. By the way, did you see the address 15 Henry Street was the same where Margaret lived in 1891 census with her uncle? So, back to my original question, do you know if the marriage certificate would have any more info than this, or am I out of luck! Perhaps I should try for the birth certificate instead.
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9 Jun 2015 12:57 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 55, Clifton Street, Lytham, Fylde, Lancashire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Rodger Allanson Head Married Male 24 1857 Joiner Lytham, Lancashire, England Transcription Emily Allanson Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Bedfordshire, England Transcription Mary Elizabeth Allanson Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Lytham, Lancashire, England Transcription Margaret Allanson Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Lytham, Lancashire, England Transcription Eliza Allanson Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Lytham, Lancashire, England Transcription Alice Allanson Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Lytham, Lancashire, England Transcription Percival Day Stepson Single Male 6 1875 - Lytham, Lancashire, England
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Carole Mac
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9 Jun 2015 12:59 |
Re the birth, I am not 100% sure if that is the same Percival Day because I have no other documentation with the middle name of Benson in it.
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MargaretM
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9 Jun 2015 13:03 |
Is this him?
Percival Day
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Record Image Index-only record
Name: Percival Day Gender: Male Baptism Date: 10 May 1874 Baptism Place: St. Cuthbert, Lytham, Lancashire, England Father: Richard Benson Day Mother: Emily FHL Film Number: 1470929
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9 Jun 2015 13:03 |
Name: Percival Day Gender: Male Christening Date: 10 May 1874 Christening Place: St. Cuthbert's, Lytham, Lancashire, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Richard Benson Day Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Emily Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02432-0 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1470929 Reference ID: item 7 p 92
Citing this Record: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7XX-WZJ : accessed 9 June 2015), Percival Day, 10 May 1874; citing Lytham, Lancashire, England, reference item 7 p 92; FHL microfilm 1,470,929.
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Carole Mac
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9 Jun 2015 13:07 |
Yes that looks to be him. I was just starting to look that marriage up, you are a genius and so quick! I am really a novice at all this but plod through. So now I have proof of the Benson middle name. And yes, all the family situations were at St Cuthbert's, Lytham. Thank you so much.
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Maddie
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9 Jun 2015 13:08 |
from lancashire opc Baptism: 10 May 1874 St Cuthbert, Lytham, Lancashire, England Percival Day - [Child] of Emily Day Abode: Lytham Occupation: Domestic Servant Notes: (Richard Benson)[named as the Father in the Register] Baptised by: H B Hawkins Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1900, Page 92, Entry 734 Source: LDS Film 1470929
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9 Jun 2015 13:09 |
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1876 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference DAY Emily ALLANSON Roger Preston, St John Preston 229/36/89
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9 Jun 2015 13:11 |
Name: Roger Allanson Birth Date: 1856 Birthplace: Age: 20 Spouse's Name: Emily Day Spouse's Birth Date: 1852 Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: 24 Event Date: 17 May 1876 Event Place: Preston, Lancashire, England Father's Name: Thomas Allanson Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: William Day Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Single Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Single Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01352-7 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1278776 Reference ID: it 2, p 45, no 89
Citing this Record: "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6TS-NCJ : accessed 9 June 2015), Roger Allanson and Emily Day, 17 May 1876; citing Preston, Lancashire, England, reference it 2, p 45, no 89; FHL microfilm 1,278,776.
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9 Jun 2015 13:11 |
emily's marriage
Marriage: 17 May 1876 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England Roger Allanson - 20, Joiner, Bachelor, Lauderale Street Emily Day - 24, Servant, Spinster, Lytham Groom's Father: Thomas Allanson, Bricklayer Bride's Father: late William Day, Gardener Witness: Charles Winter; Margaret Ellen Crossley Married by Certificate by: William E. Hey Curate Register: Marriages 1876 - 1877, Page 45, Entry 89 Source: LDS Film 94000
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9 Jun 2015 13:12 |
Marriage: 17 May 1876 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England Roger Allanson - 20, Joiner, Bachelor, Lauderale Street Emily Day - 24, Servant, Spinster, Lytham Groom's Father: Thomas Allanson, Bricklayer Bride's Father: late William Day, Gardener Witness: Charles Winter; Margaret Ellen Crossley Married by Certificate by: William E. Hey Curate Register: Marriages 1876 - 1877, Page 45, Entry 89 Source: LDS Film 94000
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9 Jun 2015 13:16 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Freckleton Street, Lytham, Fylde, Lancashire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Emily Allanson Head Widow Female 37 1854 Living On Her Means Goldington, Bedfordshire, England Transcription Percy Allanson Son - Male 16 1875 Errand Boy Lytham, Lancashire, England Transcription Eliza Allanson Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Lytham, Lancashire, England Transcription Alice Allanson Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Lytham, Lancashire, England
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Carole Mac
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9 Jun 2015 13:18 |
Hmm, I am speed reading here! Am I right in understanding Emily was Emily Day. But it has Percival's father was Richard Benson Day - both surnames Day? Or is it possible the father was just Richard Benson?
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MargaretM
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9 Jun 2015 13:19 |
Emily was single when she married Roger Allanson so evidently Percival was illegitimate:
Emily Day
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Name: Emily Day Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 24 Birth Date: 1852 Marriage Date: 17 May 1876 Marriage Place: Preston, Lancashire, England Father: William Day Spouse: Roger Allanson FHL Film Number: 1278776 Reference ID: it 2, p 45, no 89
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Carole Mac
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9 Jun 2015 13:22 |
Yes, that is what I was wondering from the beginning, hence trying to find the father's name. Thank you everyone for all the help, great.
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9 Jun 2015 13:31 |
Name: Emily Day Gender: Female Christening Date: 26 Oct 1851 Christening Place: GOLDINGTON,BEDFORD,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: William Day Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Eliza Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00504-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 952408 Reference ID:
Citing this Record: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N51S-ZQ8 : accessed 9 June 2015), Emily Day, 26 Oct 1851; citing GOLDINGTON,BEDFORD,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 952,408.
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9 Jun 2015 13:32 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Lawrences Yard, Bridgegate, East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Day Head Married Male 37 1824 Labourer Goldington, Bedfordshire, England Transcription Eliza Day Wife - Female 34 1827 - Lincolnshire, England Transcription Emily Day Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Goldington, Bedfordshire, England Transcription Mary Ann Day Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar Goldington, Bedfordshire, England Transcription Harry Day Son - Male 4 1857 Scholar Goldington, Bedfordshire, England
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