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28 Apr 2015 15:06 |
Please can you see if you can find him on the 1901 census. His wife's name is Charlotte Welch b 06/08/1877 reg in caister lincs.
by 1911 they had 3 children Charles Henry b 1905 George William b 1907 and Alice Mary b 1903. John William Welch and Charlotte Elizabeth Dixon married 1899 in Glanford Brigg Lincs.
Thank you for helping me
Jane
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28 Apr 2015 15:16 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription North Street, Winterton, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
John Willm Welch Head Married Male 34 1867 Brickyard Laborer Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England Charlotte Elizth Welch Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Somerby, Lincolnshire, England Charlotte Emma Welch Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Winterton, Lincolnshire, England Elizabeth Welch Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Winterton, Lincolnshire, England
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28 Apr 2015 15:17 |
For our info - 1911 census
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Park St Winterton, Winterton, Lincolnshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation John William Welch Head Married Male 44 1867 Lincolnshire Goxhill Iron Stone Miner Charlotte Elizabeth Welch Wife Married Female 33 1878 Lincolnshire Somerby - George William Welch Son - Male 9 1902 Lincolnshire Winterton - Alice Mary Welch Daughter - Female 8 1903 Lincolnshire Winterton - Charles Henry Welch Son - Male 6 1905 Lincolnshire Winterton -
Married 12 years 3 children born to marriage, 3 still living
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28 Apr 2015 15:17 |
John Willem Welch in the 1901 England Census Name:John Willem Welch Age:34 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1867 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Spouse:Charlotte Elizth Welch Birth Place:Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish:Winterton Ecclesiastical parish:Winterton All Saints Town:Winterton County/Island:Lincolnshire Country:England
Household Members:
John Willem Welch 34 (Bricklayers Labourer) Charlotte Elizth Welch 23 Charlotte Emma Welch 8 Elizabeth Welch 4
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28 Apr 2015 15:21 |
Thank you greyghost, PricklyHolly and Gritty. You have found my family. Thank you very much for helping me.
Jane
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28 Apr 2015 15:40 |
John's 1st marriage?? England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) JOHN WILLIAM Last name WELCH Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1889 MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOHN WILLIAM WELCH married ELIZA ANN WELCH District GLANFORD BRIGG County Lincolnshire Volume 7A Page 1485
----------------------------------------- And her death ?? England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) ELIZA ANN Last name WELCH Birth year 1867 Age 31 Death quarter 1 Death year 1898 District GLANFORD BRIGG County Lincolnshire Volume 7A Page 478
------------------------------- John and Eliza on the 1891 census
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Horkstow, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John W Welch Head Married Male 24 1867 Brick Maker Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England Eliza A Welch Wife Married Female 24 1867 - Winterton, Lincolnshire, England
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28 Apr 2015 15:55 |
To follow through on 1901 census details -
Not picking up John William and Eliza's children on the 1911 census (nor marriage/death prior to then)
Charlotte Emma b 1893 and Elizabeth b 1897 (not found birth either for her)
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28 Apr 2015 15:58 |
?????? not Eliza's daughter
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Mar 1897 (>99%) Dixon Elizabeth Glanford B. 7a 731
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Catherine
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28 Apr 2015 16:10 |
THis could be daughter Charlotte in 1911
Name: Charlotte Welch Age in 1911: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Servant (Employee) Gender: Female Birth Place: Winterton, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Wood Green County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: 28 Rosebery Road, Muswell Hill N Marital Status: Single Occupation: General Servant Domestic Registration district: Edmonton Registration District Number: 132 Sub-registration district: Wood Green ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Household schedule number: 199 Piece: 7275 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Hugill 45 Charlotte Welch 18
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28 Apr 2015 16:11 |
Here's Elizabeth with Maternal Grandparents in 1911
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 8 Beechfield Road Doncaster, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation George Dixon Head Married Male 61 1850 Bigby Lincolnshire Carter Rebecca Dixon Wife Married Female 63 1848 Winteston Lincolnshire - Alice Dixon Daughter Single Female 23 1888 Somerby Lincolnshire - Elizabeth Dixon Granddaughter - Female 14 1897 Winterton Lincolnshire -
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28 Apr 2015 16:13 |
Thank you very much for that information greyghost and Catherine. I did not realise he married twice. I have added it to my notes.
All the best
Jane
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greyghost
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28 Apr 2015 16:15 |
No wonder couldn't find Charlotte - FMP has her transcribed as Charlotte WEKS which might not be surprising when you look at the original !!
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Catherine
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28 Apr 2015 16:18 |
Could this be Elizabeth under her mother's maiden name?
Name: Elizabeth Dixon Age in 1911: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897 Relation to Head: Granddaughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Winterton, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Doncaster County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street address: 8 Beechfield Road Doncaster Marital Status: Single Registration district: Doncaster Registration District Number: 512 Sub-registration district: Doncaster ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 28197 Household Members: Name Age George Dixon 61 Birth Place: Bigby, Lincolnshire, England Rebbecca Dixon 63 Birth Place: Winterton, Lincolnshire, England Alice Dixon 23 (daughter) Birth Place: Somerby, Lincolnshire, England Elizabeth Dixon 14
If the couple didn't marry untill 1899, then she must have been born before they married so could be?
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Catherine
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28 Apr 2015 16:20 |
For ref:- Charlotte with her family in 1891
Name: Charlotte Dixon Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Daughter (Child) Father's name: George Dixon Mother's name: Rebecca Dixon Gender: Female Where born: Somerby, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Somerby Ecclesiastical parish: Somerby Town: Somerby County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Caistor Sub registration district: Caistor ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2622 Folio: 88 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age George Dixon 41 Rebecca Dixon 44 Charles Dixon 15 Charlotte Dixon 13 Henry J Dixon 11 Mary Dixon 10 George Dixon 8 Alice Dixon 3
......so fits with 1911
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28 Apr 2015 16:22 |
SNAP Catherine - Got there before you on that one - here's the 1881 with George and Rebecca the Grandparents from 1911 - with amongst others daughter Charlotte E b 1868 Somerby as per 1901/1911
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 6, Village, Somerby, Caistor, Lincolnshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Dixon Head Married Male 31 1850 Ag Lab Bigby, Lincolnshire, England Rebecca Dixon Wife Married Female 34 1847 Ag Lab Wife Winterton, Lincolnshire, England Sarah M Dixon Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Burringham, Lincolnshire, England Charles Dixon Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Worlaby, Lincolnshire, England Charlotte E Dixon Daughter Single Female 3 1878 Scholar Somerby, Lincolnshire, England Henry John Dixon Son Single Male 1 1880 Ag Lab Son Somerby, Lincolnshire, England Mary Dixon Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Somerby, Lincolnshire, England
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Catherine
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28 Apr 2015 16:28 |
Strange that Charlotte's birth is registered under the name of Welch
Births Mar 1893 (>99%) Welch Charlotte Emma Glanford B. 7a 697
...........when her sister who was born after her, was registered under Dixon?
EDIT:- Silly me, she was probably the daughter of his first wife Eliza Ann Welch so the two girls would have been half sisters.
But then Elizabeth was born in 1897 and Eliza didn't die untill 1898 so what was going on there?
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Catherine
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28 Apr 2015 16:39 |
greyghost, Two heads are better than one, and always good to have someone backing up information found. That's what you call good team work. :-)
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Catherine
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28 Apr 2015 16:44 |
this looks as though it may be his first wife:-
Name: Eliza A Welch Registration Year: 1866 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Glanford Brigg Inferred County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 619
Name: Eliza A Welch Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Daughter (Child) Father's name: Thomas Welch Mother's name: Charlotte Welch Gender: Female Where born: Winterton, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Winterton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Winterton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 92 Piece: 3431 Folio: 11 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Welch 30 - Shepherd Charlotte Welch 28 Eliza A Welch 3 Sarah R Welch 2
1881 Name: Eliza Ann Welsh [Eliza Anne Welch] [Eliza Ann Welch] Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relationship to Head: Daughter (Child) Father: Thomas Welsh Mother: Charlotte Welsh Gender: Female Where born: Winterton, Lincoln, England Civil Parish: Winterton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Holmes Road Occupation: No Occupation Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub registration district: Winterton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3286 Folio: 10 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Welsh 38 - Shepherd Charlotte Welsh 37 Eliza Ann Welsh 14 Sarah H. Welsh 12 Thomas C. Welsh 9 John Ed. Welsh 2
........but you would need marriage cert. to confirm.
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Jane
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28 Apr 2015 16:45 |
Gosh this is going to get confusing. I will have to take a careful look at all this info.
Thank you so much for all your help
Jane
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Catherine
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28 Apr 2015 16:51 |
Don't know if you have this, but if the couple stayed in the same area then these are possible children born after 1911 cenus:-
Births Dec 1914 (>99%) Welch Vera Dixon Glanford B. 7a 1223
Births Dec 1917 (>99%) Welch Enid M Dixon Glanford B. 7a 964
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