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Hi would someone mind checking for two Baptisms for me ..

William Gaskell (Gaskill) 1876 Liverpool father Roger Mother Margaret & Margaret Gaskell 1878 same parents these maybe Catholic Baptisms..

Thank you Colette

No baptisms for them showing on Ancestry. [EDIT: found them later, but already posted by that time!]


Nor can I see a marriage between a Roger Gaskell/Gaskill and a Margaret - apart from one possibility in 1837 in Warrington, which surely can't be the right couple.

EDIT: Not in England /Wales, anyway, but as Margaret was from Ireland (see 1881 census below), maybe they married in Ireland.

I assume this is the right family in 1881. Margaret's widowed:

Margaret Gaskill
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Margaret Gaskill
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relationship to Head: Lodger (Head) (Lodger)
Gender: Female
Where born: W S Meath, Ireland
Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 10 House 2 Court Boundary Terrace
Marital Status: Widow
Occupation: Serv
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3593
Folio: 145
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Coombs 45
William Coombs 19
Thoms Coombs 14
Margaret Gaskill 39 - born Meath, Ireland
Roger Gaskill 7
William Gaskill 5
Margaret Gaskill 3

Hiya I don't think they married Margaret had been married before in Birkenhead to a Michael Gosling he died 1870 they had four children all born Tranmere I think she met this Roger Gaskell c 1871 they had their first son Roger in Birkenhead then moved to Liverpool..she had two more children with him William & Margaret then he died in 1880..meanwhile three of her Gosling children had been put into homes in Liverpool..the youngest named Andrew Gosling died at 3 Oliver St Liverpool in 1875 death cert says son of Michael Gosling..informant Margaret Gaskell...I was wanting to see if her son William Gaskell born 1876 had the same address..

Cheers Colette

Yes that's her.............this is all new info for us..as she was surposed to have got off to America and abandoned her Gosling kids..in the 1870s instead we find her having met another man Roger Gaskell and having three more kids..

Colette

Deaths Jun 1880 (>99%)
GASKELL Roger 38 Liverpool 8b 47

Yeh I have Rogers death....1880..it's what happened next...there was rumours she went to America but I can't see evidence of that as yet....unless she met another man and uses his surname..what a mess...

Colette

could margaret gone to america and come back


M A Gosling
New York Passenger Lists
Name M A Gosling
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1865
Event Place New York City, New York, United States
Gender Female
Age 24
Birth Year (Estimated) 1841
Birthplace Ireland
Ship Name City Of London

No she was in Birkenhead she had four children Ellen 1860..John 1863..James 1867 Andrew 1870...don't think she could leave all those little ones.

col

Roger Gaskell was born on 5th June 1873 baptised 3rd March 1881 in Liverpool son of William and Margaret formerly Farley

Ellen Gosling was born 26th November 1861 baptised 3rd January 1861 in Liverpool daughter of Michael Gosling and Margaret formerly Farley (transcribed as Parley)

William born 22nd May 1876 baptised 10th April 1877 son of Roger & Margaret Gaskell formerly Faley ( I think it also say & Gosling but v hard to read)

Margaret born 10th October 1877 baptised 23rd October 1877 daughter of Roger & Margaret formerly Farley

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Andrew Gosling
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Andrew Gosling
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Tranmere, Cheshire, England
Enumeration District 9
Gender Male
Age 1
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1870
Birthplace Tranmere, Cheshire
Entry Number 12
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/3751/0198
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Margaret Gosling Head F 28 Ireland
Ellen Gosling Daughter F 10 Tranmere, Cheshire
John Gosling Son M 8 Tranmere, Cheshire
James Gosling Son M 4 Tranmere, Cheshire
Andrew Gosling Son M 1 Tranmere, Cheshire

Margaret's marriage to Michael

Marriages Sep 1859 (>99%)
Allott John Thomas Wirral 8a 594
Farley Margaret Wirral 8a 594 *************
Farrell Margaret Wirral 8a 594
Gooch Margaret Wirral 8a 594
Goslin Michael Wirral 8a 5 ************

Maybe she went back to Ireland after Roger's death, taking the children with her.

I can't see any of them in any censuses after 1881.

I had wondered if Margaret had remarried (or re-cohabited) - but can't see Roger junior with any other surname.

Lancashire Ann thank you for those baptisms...I have the baptism of FMP for Roger born 1873 in Birkenhead son of Roger & Margaret.. who's this William..I have 11th July baptised St James Birkenhead 1873...seen as though Margaret lived in Birkenhead I thought this Roger was hers...how many Rogers are there with parents Roger and Margaret Farley Farrelly...Gosling haaaaaaaaaaaaahe ...Ann are these on Ancestry I only have essentials if so can you send me the originals....I have Ellens Baptism..that one I don't need.

Thank Ann

Colette

Deaths Sep 1916 (>99%)
Gosling Margaret 74 Ashton 8d 471

Aha !! (Maybe?!)

Roger Gaskell, age 11, and Wm Gaskill, age 10, going to Quebec along with large numbers of other children - Barnardo's children, maybe?? Did Margaret abandon her second family as well?

There's also an Elizabeth Gaskell, age 12 - maybe not related.

Roger Gaskell
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Roger Gaskell
Gender: Male
Age: 11
Birth Year: abt 1872
Date of Arrival: 21 May 1883
Vessel: Peruvian
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England; Londonderry, Ireland

Roger's baptism - the one you have, Colette. I think Ann maybe typed William by mistake?

Rogerius Gaskell
in the Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906
Name: Rogerius Gaskell
Birth Date: 5 Jun 1873
Baptism Date: 3 Mar 1881
Parish: Our Lady of Reconciliation de La Salette, Lancashire, England
Father's name: Rogeriii Gaskell
Mother's name: Margarietae Farley


However, there's also this version, giving Ms Farley's first name as Mary or Maria.

Both are correct per the images on Ancestry.

Rogerius Gaskell
in the Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906
Name: Rogerius Gaskell
Birth Date: 5 Jun 1873
Baptism Date: 3 Mar 1881
Parish: Our Lady of Reconciliation de La Salette, Lancashire, England
Father's name: Rogerii Gaskell
Mother's name: Mariae Farley

William's baptism per Ancestry, as you requested:

Gulielmus Gaskell
in the Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906
Name: Gulielmus Gaskell
Birth Date: 22 May 1876
Baptism Date: 10 Apr 1877
Parish: Our Lady of Reconciliation de La Salette, Lancashire, England
Father's name: Rodger Gaskell
Mother's name: Margaritar Arley


Image has Margaret's maiden surname as Farly or something that might be Gosling. As Ann said, it's hard to read.

Hi can you save me the images also the ones for William Gaskell 1876 and Margaret 1878..I don't know what is going on with this woman having children all the time and packing the poor things off..you could be on to something...maybe she did meet another man and went to the USA using his surname..the man I am helping said his Great Grandfather James Gosling one of Margaret's first brood said his mother wrote to him from America saying she had married well and she had money for him he told her where to go.....

Colette

William's is posted above (Gulielmus)

Here's Margaret's:

Margarita Gascal
in the Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906
Name: Margarita Gascal
Birth Date: 10 Oct 1877
Baptism Date: 23 Oct 1877
Parish: Our Lady of Reconciliation de La Salette, Lancashire, England
Father's name: Richer Gascal
Mother's name: Margarita Farley


I'll PM you the images.