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19 Mar 2016 22:59 |
Name of Rose LATHWELL found in 1901 & 1911 Census. Birth as c.1887 in Clapton London, but no record in London or Clapton births. Any suggestions?
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ArgyllGran
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19 Mar 2016 23:06 |
1901 for helpers' reference:
Rose Lathwell in the 1901 England Census Name: Rose Lathwell Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Bryant Lathwell Birth Place: Clapton, London, England Civil Parish: Coventry Ecclesiastical parish: Foleshill St Paul County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Coventry Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2913 Folio: 208 Page Number: 6 Household schedule number: 43 Household Members: Name Age Bryant Lathwell 39 Eliza Lathwell 71 Rose Lathwell 14 David Lathwell 12 Deborah Lathwell 5
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brummiejan
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19 Mar 2016 23:06 |
I assume this is her - just to help us!
Name: Rose Lathwell Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Bryant Lathwell Birth Place: Clapton, London, England Civil Parish: Coventry Search Photos: Search for 'Coventry' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Foleshill St Paul County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Coventry Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2913 Folio: 208 Page Number: 6 Household schedule number: 43 Household Members: Name Age Bryant Lathwell 39 Eliza Lathwell 71 Rose Lathwell 14 David Lathwell 12 Deborah Lathwell 5
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ArgyllGran
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19 Mar 2016 23:08 |
Ancestry suggests Rose and David were born in Leighton Buzzard, although 1901 says Clapton for both of them:
Rose Lathwell in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Rose Lathwell Registration Year: 1886 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Inferred County: Bedfordshire Volume: 3b Page: 399
David Lathwell in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: David Lathwell Registration Year: 1889 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Inferred County: Bedfordshire Volume: 3b Page: 399
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Andrew
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19 Mar 2016 23:15 |
On the 1901 image the place of birth for Eliza, the mother, has been changed from Clapton to Slapton, Bucks.
So maybe this is birth for Rose
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1886 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LATHWELL Rose Leighton B 3b 399
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ArgyllGran
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19 Mar 2016 23:16 |
1901 also says their father was born Clapton, but he too was born Leighton Buzzard:
Bryant Lathel in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Bryant Lathel Registration Year: 1861 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Inferred County: Bedfordshire Volume: 3b Page: 398
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brummiejan
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19 Mar 2016 23:18 |
This seems to be Deborah:
Name: Deborah Lathwell Parish: Foleshill, St Paul Baptism Date: 29 May 1895 Father's name: Bryant Lathwell Mother's name: Mary Lane Lathwell
Various family trees have mother as Mary Jane Holt.
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brummiejan
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19 Mar 2016 23:19 |
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Deaths Dec 1895 (>99%) Lathwell Mary Jane 33 Foleshill 6d 318
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Andrew
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19 Mar 2016 23:35 |
Another daughter
Name:Caroline Ethel Lathwall Parish:Foleshill Baptism Date:6 Dec 1891 Father's name:Bryant Lathwall Mother's name:Mary Jane Lathwall
and her sad death
Deaths Jun 1892 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lathwell Caroline Ethel 0 Foleshill 6d 303
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SylviaInCanada
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20 Mar 2016 04:25 |
Bryant is shown as Widower on the 1901 Census
Eliza on the 1901 Census is Bryant's mother, not the mother of the children.
He appears to have married again in the 1911 Census
1911 Census
Name: Bryant Lathwell Age in 1911: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Slapton, Buckenham Civil Parish: Hardley Search Photos: Search for 'Hardley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: 14 The Street Marshes, Hardley, Loddon Marital Status: Married Occupation: Farm Labourer Registration district: Loddon Registration District Number: 229 Sub-registration district: Loddon ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 17 Piece: 11412
Bryant Lathwell 47 Ellen Lathwell 48 b.ca 1863, Hingham, Norfolk
Married 8 years, 2 children, 1 still living, 1 died ................ but no child shown on image ........................ those children might have been Ellen's from her first marriage
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Marriages Dec 1901 (>99%)
KINGS Ellen Coventry 6d 1019 LATHWELL Bryant Coventry 6d 1019
Warwickshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1910
Name: Bryant Lathwell Birth Year: abt 1861 Age: 40 Spouse Name: Ellen Kings Spouse Age: 41 Marriage or Bann Date: 14 Sep 1901 Event Type: Marriage Parish: Foleshill, St Paul Father Name: William Lathwell Spouse Father Name: John Gapp
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Bryant age 40 Widower Occupation:- Gas Labourer Address:- 4 Boston Place, Coventry
Ellen age 41 Widow no occupation shown Address:- 127 Station St East, Coventry
Witnesses:- Henry Barber and Annie (??) Elizabeth bacon
Both fathers deceased
Interesting side note ............... Bryant could not write although Ellen and both witnesses could.
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SylviaInCanada
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20 Mar 2016 04:28 |
4 Boston Place is the address where he was living in 1911
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SylviaInCanada
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20 Mar 2016 05:01 |
why is it impossible to find them in 1891??????
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Mar 2016 05:50 |
29 December 1906 - Tamworth Herald - Tamworth, Staffordshire, England
Marriage December 25 Albert Radbourne, of Glascote Heath, and Rose Lathwell, of Tamworth
Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1906
LATHWELL Rose RADBOURNE Albert Tamworth, St Editha Newcastle-Under-Lyme 13PT
http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/index.php
Chris :)
Burial County Warwickshire Place Foleshill Church name St Laurence Register type Unspecified Burial date 19 Nov 1895 Person age 33 Burial person forename Mary Jane Burial person surname LATTIWELL Burial person abode Carpenters' Lane St. Paul
County Warwickshire Place Foleshill Church name St Paul Register type Unspecified Marriage date 14 Oct 1901 Groom forename Bryant Groom surname LATHWELL Groom age 40 Groom condition Widower Groom abode 4 Boston Place Coventry Groom occupation gas labourer Bride forename Ellen Bride surname KINGS Bride age 41 Bride condition Widow Bride abode 127 Station Street East Coventry Groom father forename William Groom father surname LATHWELL Groom father occupation labourer Bride father forename John Bride father surname GAPP Bride father occupation gardener (dec’d) Witness1 forename Henry Witness1 surname BARBER Witness2 forename Annie Elizabeth Witness2 surname BACON Notes He signed X
Baptism County Warwickshire Place Longford Church name St Thomas the Apostle Register type Unspecified Baptism date 07 Dec 1891 Person forename Caroline Ethel Person abode Longford Father forename Bryant Father surname LATHWALL Father occupation plate layer Mother forename Mary Jane Notes private baptism; received into church 17 May 1892
Burial County Warwickshire Place Foleshill Church name St Laurence Register type Unspecified Burial date 23 Apr 1892 Person age 4m Burial person forename Caroline Ethel Burial person surname LATHWELL Burial person abode Longford
Baptism County Warwickshire Place Foleshill Church name St Paul Register type Unspecified Baptism date 29 May 1895 Person forename Deborah Person abode Foleshill Father forename Bryant Father surname LATHWILL Father occupation Plate Layer Mother forename Mary Jane
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http://www.freereg.org.uk/
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) BRYANT Last name LATHWELL Gender Male Age 40 Birth year 1867 Marital status M Occupation LABR Departure year 1907 Departure day 28 Departure month 2 Departure port LIVERPOOL Destination port HALIFAX Destination HALIFAX Country CANADA Destination country CANADA Ship name SOUTHWARK
1871 (Find My Past) William Lathwell Head - Male 50 1821 - Buckinghamshire, England Eliza Lathwell Wife - Female 43 1828 - Hertfordshire, England Edward Lathwell Son - Male 18 1853 - Buckinghamshire, England Louise Lathwell Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Buckinghamshire, England Briant Lathwell Son - Male 9 1862 - Buckinghamshire, England Caroline Lathwell Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Buckinghamshire, England Elizabeth Lathwell Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Buckinghamshire, England Street Hill Farm Parish Slapton County Bedfordshire Registration district Leighton Buzzard Archive reference RG10 Piece number 1565 Folio 62 Page 15
Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- Lathall William Leighton Buzzard 6 133 Walker Eliza Leighton Buzd 6 133
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20 Mar 2016 05:55 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Warwick Road, Coventry St Michael, Coventry, Warwickshire, Englan
John Santer Head Married Male 45 1846 Plate Layer Warwickshire, England Mary A Santer Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England Kate Santer Daughter Single Female 17 1874 General Servant Domestic Coventry, Warwickshire, England Eliza Santer Daughter - Female 14 1877 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England Joseph Santer Son - Male 14 1877 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England Mary J Santer - - Female 10 1881 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire, England James Santer Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire, England Amy Santer Grandchild - Female 0 1891 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England Charles Burbidge Lodger Single Male 19 1872 Engine Driver Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Brian Lathwell Lodger Married Male 29 1862 Goods Porter Stapleton, Buckinghamshire, England George Ferland Lodger Single Male 36 1855 Labourer Byfield, Northamptonshire, England
Henry Boot Lodger Single Male 32 1859 Labourer Aston, Northamptonshire,
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20 Mar 2016 06:02 |
Rose
Last nameLathwell
Birth year1886
Birth date26 Oct 1886
Event year1890
School name Slapton Church of England School (must be where 'Clapton came from)
TownSlapton
CountyBuckinghamshire
Parent name(s)Bryant Lathwell
Book typeAdmissions
Archive referenceE/AR/188/1
ArchiveCentre for Buckinghamshire Studies
Record setNational School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914
CategoryInstitutions & organisations
SubcategorySchools & education
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20 Mar 2016 06:09 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4 New Road Glascote Heath, Esb Missing, Staffordshire, England
Albert Radbourne Head Married Male Coal Miner Loader 25 1886 Warwickshire Glascote Parish Rose Radbourne Wife Married Female - 25 1886 London Albert Radbourne Son Single Male - 3 1908 Warwickshire Glascote Florence May Radbourne Daughter Single Female - 1 1910 Warwickshire Glascote
Marriages Dec 1906
LATHWELL Rose Tamworth 6b 845 RADBOURNE Albert Tamworth 6b 845
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20 Mar 2016 06:17 |
re the sailing to Halifax ................ he's on ancestry as Rathwell :-)
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Bryant Rathwell Gender: Male Age: 40 Birth Date: abt 1867 Departure Date: 28 Feb 1907 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: Halifax, Canada Ship Name: Southwark Search Ship Database: Search for the Southwark in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Dominion Line Master: J O Williams
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occupation:- Labourer
no other information
can't see his return
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Choccy
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20 Mar 2016 07:18 |
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1891 England Census
Name: Rose Laughwell
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Slapton, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Luton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Luton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Piece: 1271 Folio: 114 Page Number: 34
David Holt 53 Hepzabah Holt 54 Nellie Holt 21 John D Holt 12 Mary J Holt 27 (surname is Laughwell on original) Matilde Laughwell 9 Emily M Laughwell 8 >>>>>>>> Rose Laughwell 4 David Laughwell 2
Marriages Sep 1881
Holt Mary Jane Leighton B. 3b 647 LATHWELL Bryant Leighton B. 3b 647
Deaths Dec 1895
Lathwell Mary Jane 33 Foleshill 6d 318
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Cynthia
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20 Mar 2016 16:01 |
Welcome to the Community boards Robert........
(I'll let Robert know how to find his replies) :-)
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ArgyllGran
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20 Mar 2016 16:27 |
PM from Robert (before Cynthia contacted him):
My grateful thanks for your speedy and helpful research regarding Rose Lathwell. She was my father's mother and I had got bogged down trying to find her origins. Robert.
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