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14 Apr 2016 19:29 |
Mary Martin update-- I now have the Marriage Certificate Married on 6th April 1889 entry No 125 William Fox age 65 Widower Blacksmith Mary Martin age 36 - the condition and profession are both blank. In a margin on the right hand side is written the following. In entry No 125 after the Woman' s name head "Widow" corrected on the 15th January 1980, by me Charles Lee Cartwright registrar in the presence of R Jones superintendent registrar Can anyone make any sense of this as I bought the cert to try and find out if she was divorced as at this time it was very rare. even more confused now
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14 Mar 2016 13:29 |
1901 And 1911 Census with Charles Parker are both correct. The William Fox death is correct. think I will buy the marriage cert for her marriage to William and see if she is a widow no firm fact but might be interesting. On my Grandfather's birth cert it say's mother late Fox , previously Martin, formally Phillips. Which brings me to thinking she may have divorced Ellis.
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14 Mar 2016 12:42 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Stockton Malpas Cheshire, Stockton, Shropshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Charles Parker Head Married Male Farm Labourer 53 1858 Cheshire Malpas Transcription Mary Parker Wife Married Female - 54 1857 Flintshire Hanmer Transcription Charles Henry Parker Son Single Male Waggoner On Farm 25 1886 Cheshire Malpas Transcription John Edwin Parker Son Single Male Farm Labourer 24 1887 Cheshire Malpas Transcription Ruth Parker Daughter - Female School 13 1898 Cheshire Malpas Transcription George Parker Son - Male School 11 1900 Cheshire Malpas
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14 Mar 2016 12:40 |
A tree on ancestry has a marriage for Ellis Martin and Eliza Davies in Ellesmere Port, April 1874. It is not substantiated.
He married Mary in 1874 so this tree seems to be wildly inaccurate.
I can't find a marriage for them.
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14 Mar 2016 12:33 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hockton Hall, Stockton, Stockton (Cheshire), Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Parker Head Married Male 43 1858 Agricultural Labourer Malpas, Cheshire, England Transcription Mary Parker Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Transcription John Parker Son - Male 14 1887 Bakers Assistant Malpas, Cheshire, England Transcription Joseph Parker Son - Male 10 1891 - Malpas, Cheshire, England Transcription Ruth Parker Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Malpas, Cheshire, England Transcription George Parker Son - Male 1 1900 - Malpas, Cheshire, England
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14 Mar 2016 12:32 |
National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) Alice Last name Martin Birth year 1887 Birth date 25 Oct 1887 Event year 1891 School name Leycett Church Of England School (Jmi) Town Leycett County Staffordshire Country England Parent name(s) Ellis Book type Admissions
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14 Mar 2016 12:26 |
Ellis in 1901. He dies in 1904.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 12, Crown Street, Silverdale, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ellis Martin Head Married Male 52 1849 Coal Miner Overman Oldbury, Staffordshire, England Transcription Eliza Martin Wife Married Female 50 1851 Housework - Transcription John Martin Son Single Male 16 1885 Coal Miner Driver Silverdale, Staffordshire, England Transcription Elizabeth A Martin Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Machinist Colliery Factory Leycett, Staffordshire, England Transcription Alice Martin Daughter - Female 13 1888 School Leycett, Staffordshire, England Transcription Emily Martin Daughter - Female 11 1890 School Leycett, Staffordshire, England Transcription Thomas Davies Boarder Single Male 37 1864 Coal Miner Hewer Staffordshire, England
and 1911. Eliza is Married?
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 29 Albert St Silverdale Staffordshire, Silverdale, Staffordshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Eliza Martin Wife Married Female At Home 59 1852 Wolverhampton Staffs Transcription Elizabeth Ann Martin Daughter Single Female Dipper 25 1886 Silverdale Staffs Transcription Alice Martin Daughter Single Female Ware Cleaner 23 1888 Leycett Staffs Transcription Thomas Davies Brother Single Male Miner Formerly Cripple 56 1855 Rounds Green Oldbury Transcription John Walklate Boarder Single Male Miner Loader 21 1890 Silverdale Staffs
EDIT The image reads widow for Eliza. She would have been married 29 years, had had 9 children, 4 still living. There's John, 26 and Emily, 21 both crossed out.
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14 Mar 2016 12:19 |
OK I take it this is them with Emily so it certainly does seem to be the same person.
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Oldcastle, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Fox Head Married Male 68 1823 Agricultural Labourer Malpas, Cheshire, England Transcription Mary Fox Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Transcription Emily Montin Stepdaughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
SNAP Safc!!
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14 Mar 2016 12:18 |
Deaths Jun 1895 (>99%) Fox William 71 Whitchurch, S. 6a 481
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14 Mar 2016 12:17 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Oldcastle, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Fox Head Married Male 68 1823 Agricultural Labourer Malpas, Cheshire, England Transcription Mary Fox Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Transcription Emily Montin Stepdaughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
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14 Mar 2016 12:15 |
This is the marriage for reference. Are you certain this is your Mary? Do you have the certificate?
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) WILLIAM Last name FOX Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1889 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM FOX married one of these people MARY ELLEN GREATBANKS, MARY MARTIN District WHITCHURCH (SHROPSHIRE) District number - County Shropshire Country England Volume 6A Page 1439
EDIT It would be interesting to know how Mary describes herself.
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14 Mar 2016 11:34 |
wonderful safc, I need to digest all this now. One part I don't understand is she re-married a William Fox in 1889. Is this bigamy or divorce as I believe Divorce was very uncommon at this time
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13 Mar 2016 23:50 |
Flint Baptisms Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) ELENOR Last name MARTIN Birth year 1874 Birth day - Birth month - Baptism year 1874 Baptism day 17 Baptism month May Place HANMER Mother's first name(s) Mary Father's first name(s) Ellis County Flintshire Country Wales Record set Flint Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
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13 Mar 2016 23:47 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Scott Hay, Madeley, Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ellis Martin Head Married Female 42 1849 Coal Miner Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Transcription Eliza Martin Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Transcription Elinor Martin Daughter Single Female 16 1875 Mothers Help Flintshire, Wales Transcription Henry Martin Son Single Male 14 1877 Coal Miner Prestwich, Lancashire, England Transcription John Martin Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Silverdale, Staffordshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Martin Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Silverdale, Staffordshire, England Transcription Alice Martin Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Leycett, Staffordshire, England Transcription Emily Martin Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Leycett, Staffordshire, England Transcription Thomas Davis Lodger Single Male 38 1853 Coal Miner Oldbury, Staffordshire, England
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13 Mar 2016 23:25 |
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) ELLIS Last name MARTIN Gender Unknown Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1849 Age 55 Death quarter 3 Death year 1904 District WOLSTANTON County Staffordshire Volume 6B Page 52 Country England Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
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13 Mar 2016 23:19 |
Flint Baptisms Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) BEATRICE Last name PHILLIPS Birth year 1872 Birth day - Birth month - Baptism year 1872 Baptism day 02 Baptism month Jan Place HANMER Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Father's first name(s) - County Flintshire Country Wales Record set Flint Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
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13 Mar 2016 23:17 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Wrexham Road, Tybroughton (Flint), Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Elizabeth Phillips Head Widow Female 55 1826 Occupier Of Land - Transcription John Phillips Son Single Male 17 1864 ((No Oc)) Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Transcription Beatrice Phillips Grand Daughter Single Female 9 1872 - Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales Transcription Emily Martin Grand Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Lancashire, England
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13 Mar 2016 23:16 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Little Green, Little, Tybroughton, Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Richard Phillips Head - Male 44 1827 - Flintshire, Wales Transcription Elizebeth Phillips Wife - Female 46 1825 - Shropshire, England Transcription Mary Phillips Daughter - Female 14 1857 - Flintshire, Wales Transcription Richard Phillips Son - Male 10 1861 - Flintshire, Wales Transcription John Phillips Son - Male 7 1864 - Flintshire, Wales Transcription Anne Phillips Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Flintshire, Wales
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13 Mar 2016 23:13 |
Their banns.
Flint Banns Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) ELLIS Last name MARTIN Banns year 1874 Banns day 29 Banns month Mar Marriage year 1874 Marriage day - Marriage month - Place HANMER Spouse's first name(s) MARY Spouse's last name PHILLIPS Bride's parish Hanmer Groom's parish Ellesmere County Flintshire
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13 Mar 2016 23:06 |
Flint Baptisms Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) EMILY Last name MARTIN Birth year 1881 Birth day - Birth month - Baptism year 1881 Baptism day 12 Baptism month Feb Place HANMER Mother's first name(s) Mary Father's first name(s) Ellis County Flintshire Country Wales
Written faintly is 18 months old. Her father was a pitman and the Abode was Ratcliffe, Lancashire.
This all seems to tie in with above birth.
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