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Colin
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11 Dec 2015 02:04 |
I have found a marriage certificate for the above couple, June 1905, at Wandsworth London, but I can not seem to find if they had any children or grand children.It is believed that they did. Any help would be very much appreciated thank you. Regards and Seasons wishes to all. Colin.
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Vanessa
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11 Dec 2015 04:50 |
Hi Colin
This appears to be the marriage:
Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%) >>> Goodey Florence Lydia Wandsworth 1d 1122 Gregory William Philip Wandsworth 1d 1122 >>> HARDING Harold Ernest Wandsworth 1d 1122 WATTS Alice Maud Wandsworth 1d 1122
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Vanessa
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11 Dec 2015 05:02 |
There are a number of births after 1911 (this is when the Mothers maiden name began to show on the index), however there is another marriage in West Ham that could account for these:
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1912 (>99%) Harding Vera I Goodey W. Ham 4a 639 Births Mar 1914 (>99%) Harding Christine E Goodey Fulham 1a 475 Births Mar 1918 (>99%) Harding David C Goodey Brentford 3a 180 Births Mar 1920 (>99%) Harding Harold E Goodey W Ham 4a 849 Births Jun 1923 (>99%) Harding Gwendoline M Goodey W.Ham 4a 618 Births Dec 1925 (>99%) Harding Jean Goodey W.Ham 4a 516
The other marriage set - although I have not traced these to see who married who: Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%) GOODEY Lilian W. Ham 4a 456 Scan available - click to view HARDING Harry Ernest W. Ham 4a 456 Scan available - click to view HARVEY Alfred John W. Ham 4a 456 Scan available - click to view ROPER Amy Louise W. Ham 4a 456 Scan available - click to view
Coincidence that this groom is Harry Ernest (Harold Ernest)?? :-0
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Vanessa
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11 Dec 2015 05:04 |
After this time, we begin to go to dates where people can still be living so details cannot be posted here.
If you use FreeBMD, you may be able to find if any of the above married, or a copy of a Birth cert, would confirm parents.
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Vanessa
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11 Dec 2015 05:06 |
This could possibly the birth registration for Florence:
Name: Florence Lydia Goodey Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year: 1883 Registration District: Oxford County: Oxfordshire Event Place: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Volume: 3A Page: 816 Line Number: 260
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SylviaInCanada
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11 Dec 2015 07:04 |
from ancestry
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Florence Lydia Goodey Estimated birth year: abt 1883 Age: 22 Spouse: Harold Ernest Harding Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 24 Apr 1905 Parish: Holy Trinity, Upper Tooting Borough: Wandsworth Father Name: George Goodey Spouse Father: Charles Harding Register Type: Parish Register
from the image Henry is a Soldier Father occupation:- Coal Merchant
Charles Harding occupation:- Bootmaker
Witnesses:- George Goodey and Emily Elizabeth Goodey. Plus there is a third signature at an angle to these two, and ti could be George Gregory
EDITt:- December 12 ca 12:30 am
I really should be careful what I post late at night!!.
Note the following errors
from the image Henry is a Soldier <<<<<<<<<<< oops!! HAROLD is a soldier Father (Charles Harding) occupation:- Coal Merchant
Charles Harding occupation:- Bootmaker <<<<<<<<<, George Goodey, Bootmaker
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This is the second marriage that Vanessa found
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
Name: Harry Ernest Harding Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1879 Age: 26 Father's name: James Robert George Harding Spouse's Name: Lilian Goodey Spouse's Age: 24 Spouse's Father's Name: Edward Goodey Marriage Date: 28 Nov 1905 Marriage Place: Wanstead slip, Essex, England
this is an Index-only record, so it is not possible to look at the image to check all details ...............
but it does look like just a coincidence, or possibly cousins????
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SylviaInCanada
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11 Dec 2015 07:08 |
Harry Ernest and Lilian had 2 children in the 1911 Census
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LondonBelle
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11 Dec 2015 07:53 |
According to Military Records in the name of Ernest Harding he married in the name of Harold Ernest Harding and the Marriage details are the same as those in the 0704 Post above. Also, according to the same Records there were at least 3 children born to the Marriage as follows:
Ernest George born 28.05.06 Elswick Emily Winifred born 12.08.07 Elswick Harold Frederick born 28.02.10 Tooting
Ernest was 18yrs 2mths when he joined The Royal Horse & Field Artillery (Service No 13045/RFA) on 21 Nov 1900 and was born in Tooting Surrey; his occupation prior to joining up was a Carman and he was a Driver in the RFA.
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LondonBelle
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11 Dec 2015 08:26 |
According to the 1911 Census Ernest had left the RFA. He and his Family were living at 65 Outram St, Islington, London.
Ernest 27 born Tooting, Surrey occ Stableman N W Railway Florence 28 born Oxford Ernest 4 born Newcastle on Tyne Winifred 3 born Newcastle on Tyne Harold 1 born Balham
Married 6 years. Three children born to Marriage, all living.
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Chris Ho :)
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11 Dec 2015 08:43 |
Have you checked 'Search All Member Trees' (top right of page, under 'Search') Florence looks to be shared.
(does below relate?)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8024602
Chris :)
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PricklyHolly
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11 Dec 2015 09:56 |
Emily Winifred Harding in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Emily Winifred Harding Gender: Female Baptism Date: 8 Sep 1907 Baptism Place: St. Andrew's, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England Father: Ernest Harding Mother: Florence Harding
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PricklyHolly
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11 Dec 2015 10:01 |
Ernest George Harding in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Ernest George Harding Birth Date: 28 May 1906 Date of Registration: Jan 1984 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Warwick and Leamington Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 31 Page: 643
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malyon
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11 Dec 2015 11:49 |
this looks like harold's birth
Harold Ernest Harding England and Wales Birth Registration Index Name Harold Ernest Harding Event Type Birth Registration Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year 1883 Registration District Wandsworth County London Event Place Wandsworth, London, England Volume 1D Page 664 Line Number 275
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malyon
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11 Dec 2015 11:58 |
this could be florence's death
Deaths Sep 1942 (>99%) Harding Florence L 59 Essex S.W. 4a 146
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Potty
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11 Dec 2015 12:24 |
Ernest also served in WW1, from 5th Sept 1914 to March 1920. There is a form in his records that gives his address as 10/75 Rochester Place, Kentish Town, in 1920 and another which gives his address as 40 Queens St?, Camden Town in 1921.
There is also a letter from his wife which has a received stamp dated 10th May 1921 and has the Flat 10, 75 Rochester Place address.
His medal card is on Ancestry; he received the 1914 Star with Clasp & Roses, the Victory & British medals.
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Potty
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11 Dec 2015 12:49 |
There is an Ernest Harding living at 40 Queens St in 1922, but his name is shown as Ernest James and he is living with an Emily Caroline Harding. There is a marriage in 1921 for an Ernest James Harding and an Emily Caroline Stevens in St Pancras.
There is ref in the Army records to the link given by Chris Ho.
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Kucinta
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11 Dec 2015 14:36 |
Re the post above from Potty above, the marriage of Ernest James Harding and Emily Caroline Stevens :
Name: Ernest James Harding Spouse: Emily ?? Stevens Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 12 Jun 1921 Parish: St Pancras Old St Pancras Borough: Camden Father Name: Ernest James Harding Spouse Father: Walter Thomas Hall Register Type: Parish Register
Ernest James Harding the groom is an army clothing inspector, his father is also Ernest James Harding a deceased carpenter. Emily was a widow, her father Walter Thomas Hall was a decorator. The page is covered in what looks like ink blots so other details aren't that easy to read, Emily's second name Caroline is mostly covered by one such blot.
The couple both give 28 B????ay St as their address.
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Colin
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11 Dec 2015 22:42 |
Hi all, thank you so much to all you wonderful people that have come up with all this information. It's taking me a bit of time to digest it. I must admit that it is so confusing and I'm wondering if I am tangled up with more than one family of Hardings. They all seem to have the same variations of forenames. I will do a bit more studying and get back here. Watch this space LOL Please keep it coming. I did post a thread on the " Find living relatives " board, Looking for Kenneth William Harding and the reason for my search. Please take a look. Many thanks again. Colin.
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SylviaInCanada
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12 Dec 2015 00:55 |
?????
Harold Ernest in 1891 with his parents
1891 Census
Name: Harold L Harding Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation: Son Father's name: Charles Harding Mother's name: Emma Harding Gender: Male Where born: Battersea, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Streatham Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Streatham County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 454 Folio: 71 Page Number: 27
Charles Harding 30 b.ca 1861, Chartridge, Buckinghamshire, Coal Porter Emma Harding 30 b.ca 1861, Swilland, Suffolk Charles F Harding 11 Herbert B Harding 9 Harold L Harding 7 Archibald L Harding 5 Amos F Harding 2
Address:- 7 Langroyd (???sp ) Road
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SylviaInCanada
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12 Dec 2015 01:50 |
James Robert George Harding was born ca 1835. I wonder if this is his baptism??? ............
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: James Robert George Harding Gender: Male Baptism Date: 6 Nov 1835 Baptism Place: Saint Dunstan,Stepney,London,England Father: James Harding Mother: Amelia Priscilla FHL Film Number: 596913, 596914, 596915, 596916
In 1911, Harry Ernest Harding said he was born ca 1879, Clapton, London, and was a Tram Motorman
I wonder if therefore this is him with his parents in 1891???
1891 Census
Name: James Harding Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Caroline Harding Gender: Male Where born: Frensham, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Hackney St John Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Hackney County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 185 Folio: 71 Page Number: 79
James Harding 50 Wheelwright Caroline Harding 38 b.ca 1853, Chertsey, Surrey Ernest Harding 14 b.ca 1877, Clapton, London Caroline M Harding 4 b.ca 1887, Clapton Frank R Harding 1 b.ca 1890, Clapton
This definitely looks like Harry Ernest in 1901 ..........
1901 Census
Name: Ernest Harding Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Male Birth Place: Sth Hackney, London, England Civil Parish: Bromley Search Photos: Search for 'Bromley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows East India Docks Town: London County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Piece: 347 Folio: 128 Page Number: 11 Household schedule number: 55
Samuel Levy 50 Mary Levy 39 Thomas Levy 18 Elizabeth Levy 12 Amy Levy 3 Ernest Harding 24 Omnibus Conductor George Page 33
???? Harry Ernest's baptism ...
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Harry Harding Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 1 Apr 1877 Father's name: James Harding Mother's name: Mary Harding Parish or Poor Law Union: Streatham St Leonard Borough: Lambeth Register Type: Parish Registers
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Born 9 Nov 1876 Father occupation:- Carpenter Address:- Streatham
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