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19 Nov 2015 09:53 |
Hi looking for more info on Henry Herbert Erskine b 1903 Warrington Lancashire, he m twice the last time in 1936 to Evelyn Vickery 1907-1991 following on can find no trace of him, or when he died. I also think his father was Henry Herbert Erskine & mother Alice Maude but cannot be sure.
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Andrew
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19 Nov 2015 10:42 |
Did he go to Australia?
Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name:Henry Herbert Erskine Electoral Year:1972 Subdistrict:Wingham State:New South Wales District:Lyne Country:Australia Residence Address: 75 Bungay Rd, Wnghm 2429
Also at same address is Evelyn.
First appear in 1958
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19 Nov 2015 10:44 |
This looks like him in 1911, the son of Alice Maude Erskine, widow, who is the sister-in-law of Albert Edward Pullen.
Henry Herbert Erskine
in the 1911 England Census Record Image View
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Name: Henry Herbert Erskine Age in 1911: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1903 Relation to Head: Nephew Gender: Male Birth Place: Warrington, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Cherry Hinton Search Photos: Search for 'Cherry Hinton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address: Glen Bruar, Hills Road, Cherry Hinton, Cambridge Registration district: Chesterton Registration District Number: 180 Sub-registration district: Cherry Hinton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 361 Piece: 9083 Household Members: Name Age Albert Edward Pullen 43 Margaret Edith Pullen 27 Molly Pullen 7 John Erskine Pullen 5 Denis Herbert Pullen 4 Brian Erskine Pullen 2/12 Alice Maude Erskine 30 Henry Herbert Erskine 8 Kate Nora Charles 19 Susan Ruls 16
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19 Nov 2015 11:02 |
Interesting.....
Alice is a widow in 1911, but
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ERSKINE Madge Edith Runcorn 8a 423 ERSKINE Margaret Edith Runcorn 8a 423 Pullin Albert Edward Runcorn 8a 423
As Margaet was her sister, it could be Alice wasn't married
Possible, Ireland 1901
Name: Alice Maude Erskine Gender:Female Age:20 Birth Year:abt 1881 Relation to Head:Daughter Residence Date:31 Mar 1901 Townland/Street: Rosemount District:Dundrum County:Dublin Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Erskine 45 Amelia Erskine 43 Alice Maude Erskine 20 Anne Healy 54
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19 Nov 2015 11:05 |
It looks like Margaret Edith's maiden name was Erskine:
Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ERSKINE Madge Edith Runcorn 8a 423 ERSKINE Margaret Edith Runcorn 8a 423 Pullin Albert Edward Runcorn 8a 423
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19 Nov 2015 11:06 |
Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms c1538-1910
First name(s) Henry Herbert Last name Erskine Gender Male Birth year 1903 Birth date 08 Dec 1902 Baptism year 1903 Baptism date 08 Feb 1903 Place Stockton-Heath, St Thomas County Cheshire Country England Father's first name(s) Henry Herbert Father's last name Erskine Mother's first name(s) Alice Maud Mother's last name Erskine
Henry Herbert was a draughtsman. Address was 19 Stafford Road.
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19 Nov 2015 11:09 |
In case it's connected:
Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910
First name(s) Herbert Henry Last name Erskine Age 27y Marriage year 1899 Marriage date 09 May 1899 Marriage place Stockton Heath Parish St. Thomas Spouse's first name(s) Maude Spouse's last name Fanshaw Spouse's age 19y Bride's father's name David Fanshaw City or town Stockton-Heath County Cheshire Country England
ADDED: Herbert Henry a bachelor, occupation Amalgamator, lived Stockton Heath. His father a flax merchant.
Maude a spinster of White Cross House, Warrington. Her father a works manager.
Witnesses: James A McCullagh, Madge Erskine, Joseph Podmore
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19 Nov 2015 11:09 |
1901 Name: Alice M Erskine [Alice M Fanshaw] Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: David Fanshaw Mother: Emily Fanshaw Birth Place: Pennistone, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Warrington Search Photos: Search for 'Warrington' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas Town: Warrington County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Warrington Sub-registration district: Warrington ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3581 Folio: 55 Page Number: 5 Household schedule number: 23 Household Members: Name Age David Fanshaw 51 Emily Fanshaw 48 Herbert Erskine 29 Alice M Erskine 21 E A Erskine 19 Margt E Erskine 17 Ethel B Erskine 16 Percy Erskine 13 Rosalie Clarke 19
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19 Nov 2015 11:09 |
I think you need Henry Herbert's birth certificate:
Births Mar 1903 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erskine Henry Herbert Warrington 8c 239
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19 Nov 2015 11:14 |
Same family 1891
David Fanshaw 41 Sarah Fanshaw 40 Mary E Fanshaw 21 Margaret K Fanshaw 17 Alice M Fanshaw 11 Evelyn A Fanshaw 9 Ethel B Fanshaw 6 Percy E Fanshaw 3 Phoebe Day 30 John J H Day 7 Ethel Day 5 Sarah Vernon 17
Agreed you do need Henry Herberts birth cert to check!
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19 Nov 2015 11:14 |
Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
Erskine Emily Warrington 8c 216 Fanshaw David Warrington 8c 216
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MarieCeleste
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19 Nov 2015 11:16 |
I think the baptism I posted above is pretty conclusive so wouldn't waste £9.25 on birth certificate.
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19 Nov 2015 11:23 |
The marriage of Henry Herbert snr's sister to Albert Edward Pullin (hence Alice Maude being his sister-in-law on the 1911)
Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910
First name(s) Albert Edward Last name Pullin Age 34y Marriage year 1902 Marriage date 14 Oct 1902 Marriage place Stockton Heath Parish St. Thomas Spouse's first name(s) Margaret Edith Spouse's last name Erskine Spouse's age 18y Bride's father's name Henry Magill Erskine (deceased) Flax Merchant City or town Stockton-Heath County Cheshire Country England
Margaret Edith signed the register as Madge.
Witnesses: J Brandlea?, B Fanshaw, Pansy A? Cracken?, EH Grimshaw, Emily Fanshaw, WJ? Fanshaw
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19 Nov 2015 11:27 |
Just for ref 1881 David Fanshaw with first wife
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Brick Houses, 4, Hunshelf, Wortley, Yorkshire, England
David Fanshaw Head Married Male 31 1850 Puddler Steel Works Heage, Derbyshire, England Sarah Fanshaw Wife Married Female 30 1851 - Bloomfield, Staffordshire, England Mary E Fanshaw Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Dudley, Staffordshire, England Margaret Kendric Fanshaw Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Stocksbridge, Yorkshire, England Alice M Fanshaw Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Stocksbridge, Yorkshire, 99%)
Fanshaw David Dudley 6c 210 Kendrick Sarah Dudley 6c 210
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MarieCeleste
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19 Nov 2015 11:31 |
Herbert Henry snr:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar Name: Herbert Henry Erskine Probate Date: 2 Sep 1908 Registry: London, England Death Date: 7 Oct 1907 Death Place: Manchester, England
Lived 159 High Street, Chorlton-upon Medlock. Admin to Maude Erskine widow. Effects £1005
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19 Nov 2015 11:38 |
Not sure if it's been mentioned but on the 1901 after David Fanshaw's marriage to Emily Erskine
Herbert Erskine is named as stepson to David, and image shows Emily and herbert born Belfast.
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ian
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19 Nov 2015 15:11 |
many thanks all, now need to sort it all out
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19 Nov 2015 21:53 |
Is this Evelyn travelling out to Australia?
Name: Mrs E Erskine Gender: Female Age: 35 Birth Date: abt 1903 Departure Date: 24 Sep 1938 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Sydney, Australia Ship Name: Orontes Search Ship Database: Search for the Orontes in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Orient Line Official Number: 146027 Master: W Savage
Also travelling was Mrs L Vickery (70), 22 Lyndhurst Ave, Tolworth, Surbiton, Surrey and 9 month old Miss G and Miss M Erskine of the same address.
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20 Nov 2015 07:47 |
Following on from alviegal's find above, when Mrs E Erskine and 2 children arrived in Freemantle they were headed to Sydney where their onward address was c/o Mrs Mills, 2 Hamilton Street, Rose Bay.
Mrs L Vickery was headed to 2, The Crofts, Hamilton Street, Rose Bay, Sydney. Can't see an arrival for Misses G & M.
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20 Nov 2015 08:00 |
Ian, in your opening post you give Evelyn Vickery as 1907 - 1991, is that based on this death?
Evelyn Erskine in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Evelyn Erskine Birth Date: 22 Dec 1907 Date of Registration: May 1991 Age at Death: 83 Registration district: Andover Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 20 Page: 67
If so, do you have the death certificate to ensure that it is the correct Evelyn?
ADDED: I don't think that it is, given Evelyn's age on passenger lists and the details I've posted below.
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