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6 Oct 2015 10:46 |
hi, i was wondering if anyone could help me please i am trying to find my nan's side of the family but i am a bit stuck now.
her dad's side all i know is: his name: thomas a stanley born 1899 and died 1980 fathers name: arthur watson stanley his mothers name: Lily Eleanor ( not sure of maiden name) his sister: Lily (i know she died at age 30) his brothers: george and fred
her mum's side all i know is: her name: edith waring born 1904 and died 1985 her mothers name: Joanna (not sure of maiden name) her fathers name was: thomas waring sisters: claire, Elizabeth ( known as Lil) may and flo brothers: george and fred
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6 Oct 2015 10:57 |
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) ARTHUR WATSON Last name STANLEY Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1899 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ ARTHUR WATSON STANLEY married one of these people LILY HELENA WYNN, ELIZABETH JONES District WIRRAL District number - County Cheshire Country England Volume 8A Page 617 Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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6 Oct 2015 11:00 |
i think it lily helena wynn my mum must of got the middle name wrong cause when i search it came up with her xx
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6 Oct 2015 11:02 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 43, Thomas Street, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Arthur Stanley Head Married Male 48 1853 Coal Carter Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription Lily Stanley Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Transcription Thomas Stanley Son - Male 2 1899 - Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
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6 Oct 2015 11:05 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 64 Moorland Road Birkenhead, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Arthur Stanley Head Married Male General Carter 45 1866 Rutland Mercott Transcription Lily Eleanor Stanley Wife Married Female - 36 1875 Wrexham Sumerhill Transcription Thomas Stanley Son - Male - 11 1900 Wrexham Sumerhill Transcription Lily Stanley Daughter - Female - 6 1905 Wrexham Sumerhill Transcription Lea Stanley Son - Male - 0 1911 Birkenhead Transcription Leargee Stanley Son - Male - 0 1911 Birkenhead
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6 Oct 2015 11:14 |
1911 - but perhaps not - Wrong name for the mother Name: Edith Waring Age in 1911: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1904 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Birkenhead County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: 2 Dale Street Birkenhead Registration district: Birkenhead
Thomas Georgh (George) Waring 38 - Property Repairer Mary Jane Waring 34 Clara Waring 14 Florence Waring 10 Edith Waring 7 George Waring 5 May Waring 2 Elizabeth Waring 11/12
Married 15 years - 6 children born alive, all living. Everyone born in Birkenhead
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6 Oct 2015 11:14 |
from a tree on ancestry, treat with caution
Arthur Birth 1865 Abt. Morcott, Rutland, England 1 Source Marriage 1899 Jan Age: 34 Cheshire, England 1 Source Residence 1911 2 Apr Age: 46 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England 1 Source Death 1929 Sep Age: 64 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Lilly Birth 1878 Abt. Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1881 Age: 3 Gresford, Denbighshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1891 Age: 13 Gwersyllt, Denbighshire, Wales 1 Source Marriage 1899 Jan Age: 21 Wirral, Cheshire, England 1 Source Residence 1901 Age: 23 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England 1 Source Residence 1911 2 Apr Age: 33 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England 1 Source Residence 1911 2 Apr Age: 33 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England 1 Source Residence 1911 2 Apr Age: 33 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England 1 Source Death 1945 Jul Age: 67 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
her father Thomas1841 Jul Holywell, Flintshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1841 Eglwysfach, Denbighshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1851 Age: 10 Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1861 Age: 20 Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales 1 Source Marriage 1870 7 Sep Age: 29 St John, Liverpool, Lancashire, England 1 Source Residence 1871 Age: 30 Llanbedrog, Caernarvonshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1871 Age: 30 Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1881 Age: 40 Llanbedrog, Caernarvonshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1881 Age: 40 Gresford, Denbighshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1891 Age: 50 Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1891 Age: 50 Gwersyllt, Denbighshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1891 Age: 50 Llanbedrog, Caernarvonshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1901 Age: 60 Llanbedrog, Caernarvonshire, Wales 2 Sources Death 1920 Jun Age: 78 Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
mother Hrriett - no surname
Residence 1871 Age: 30 Llanbedrog, Caernarvonshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1871 Age: 30 Llanbedrog, Caernarvonshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1881 Age: 40 Llanbedrog, Caernarvonshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1881 Age: 40 Llanbedrog, Caernarvonshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1891 Age: 50 Llanbedrog, Caernarvonshire, Wales 1 Source Residence 1901 Age: 60 Llanbedrog, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death 1907 Jun Age: 66 Brook Street, Rhosymedre, Denbighshire, Wales
Arthurs children
Thomas Stanley 1900 –
Lily May Stanley 1904 – 1935
Frederick Stanley 1911 – 1987
George Stanley 1911 – 1962
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6 Oct 2015 11:21 |
Can you give us a clue about where the events occured? safc has worked out the marriage took place in the Wirral - do you remember anything else?
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6 Oct 2015 11:28 |
The only 2 births in 1904 for Edith Waring
Births Mar 1904 (>99%) WARING Edith Birkenhead 8a 495
Births Dec 1904 (>99%) WARING Edith Neath 11a 976
If you know her date of birth, it would be easy to work out the correct one Mar is for births reg in Jan, Feb or Mar and may include someone born in late Nov/Dec the previous year. Dec is for births reg Oct, Nov or Dec, and agains may include someone born late Aug/Sep the same year. Parents have 6 weeks to register a birth
If we can't find an exact fit for the 1911 census, we'd advise purchasing the most appropriate BC from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ at a cost of £9.25
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6 Oct 2015 11:30 |
is this Lily
Name: Lily May Stanley Registration Year: 1904 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Birkenhead Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 8a Page: 524
Name: John A Hopkins Spouse Surname: Stanley Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Cheshire Volume Number: 8a Page Number: 1366 Find Spouse: Lily M Stanley Name: Lily M Hopkins Birth Date: abt 1904 Date of Registration: Dec 1935 Age at Death: 31 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 8a Page: 643
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6 Oct 2015 11:32 |
If you think the Birkenhead birth is most likely, this is her registratiion from the local registry
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1904 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference WARING Edith Birkenhead Wirral HANLEY BIR/221/3
So mother's maiden name HANLEY
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6 Oct 2015 11:36 |
Fred Name: Frederick Stanley Registration Year: 1911 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Birkenhead Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 8a Page: 499
Name: Frederick Stanley Birth Date: 21 Mar 1911 Date of Registration: Jan 1987 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 37 Page: 911 Name: Frederick Stanley Birth Date: 21 Mar 1911 Date of Registration: Jan 1987 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 37 Page: 911
George
Name: George Stanley Registration Year: 1911 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Birkenhead Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 8a Page: 499
Name: George Stanley Birth Date: abt 1911 Date of Registration: Dec 1962 Age at Death: 51 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 10a Page: 88
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6 Oct 2015 11:52 |
I know edith waring was born in birrkenhead and her husband was born in wrexham
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6 Oct 2015 11:52 |
Just in case the Waring 1911 census is correct:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Thomas George Waring Probate Date: 14 Dec 1955 Registry: Liverpool, England Death Date: 12 Jun 1953 Death Place: Birkenhead
Waring, Thomas George of 12 Holt Road, Birkenhead, died 12 June 1953 Probate Liverpool 14 December to George Waring garage proprietor and Charles Waring omnibus driver ----------------------------------------
Death index: Name: Thomas G Waring Birth Date: abt 1873 Date of Registration: Jun 1953 Age at Death: 80 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 10a Page: 72
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6 Oct 2015 11:52 |
Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) Mary Jane Last name Hanley Age 22y Marriage year 1895 Marriage date 26 Aug 1895 Marriage place Birkenhead Parish St. Mary Spouse's first name(s) Thomas George Spouse's last name Waring Spouse's age 19y Bride's father's name John Hanley City or town Birkenhead County Cheshire Country England Reference item 5 p 144 Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish marriages 1538-1910 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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6 Oct 2015 11:56 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7, Elizabeth Street, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Mathias Waring Head Married Male 39 1842 Bricklayers Labr Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Transcription Johannah Waring Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Transcription Clara Waring Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Transcription Thomas G Waring Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Waring Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Transcription Martha J Waring Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
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6 Oct 2015 11:59 |
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) Matthias Last name Waring Name note - Marriage year 1872 Marriage date 03 Mar 1872 Marriage place Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Waring Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Spouse's first name(s) Johanna Spouse's last name Hanlin Spouse's age 0 Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's father's last name Richards Spouse's mother's first name(s) - Spouse's mother's last name - Residence Liverpool, Lancashire, England Place Liverpool County Lancashire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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6 Oct 2015 12:59 |
Just trying to get my head around the Warings.
Edith Waring b 1904 Birkenhead, mmn Hanley
Her parents?? Mary Jane Hanley (c1873) m Thomas George Waring (c1876) in 1895
Mary Jane Hanley’s father named as John Hanley on her MC. ………… But then we have a Johanna Hanlin m Matthias Waring in 1872 (Mia thought Edith's mother was Johanna) She may have been a widow as her father is named as Thomas Richards. Alternatively he was her step-father. ………..
Sooo…Different families or have the memories of Mia’s relatives got muddled?
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6 Oct 2015 16:58 |
Never thought doing a family tree would be so confusing lol xx
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6 Oct 2015 17:30 |
Start with what you know, and where possible obtain certificates to confirm.
Older relatives are a mine of information, but sometimes things get confused.
For Edith's family, her DC would give her dob. Bear in mind that the information dies depend on the informants knowledge. Sometimes they give a wrong year of birth. presumably you already have a copy of her MC. Fathers occupations and the names if the witnesses can help find their families.
If the 1904 birth reg is correct, then you might consider purchasing it. That would confirm her mothers maiden name + her fathers occupation. That will help to confirm if the 1911 census is the right one.
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