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Moira
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28 Sep 2015 16:54 |
I am trying to find more about William T G Neale, he was born 1865 to William G Neale and Sarah Budd in Wellington Staffordshire, He was a boatman (canals) William G Neale was a lock Keeper in Birmingham and I have William T G there at the age of 16. I have a possible marriage for him to a Emma Mary Ann Plenty 1903 in Southwark there was a son born the following year 1904 Henry James Neale but no sign of William
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AustinQ
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28 Sep 2015 17:02 |
For Reference:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bromford Junction Canal Lock House, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
William G Neal Head Married Male 38 1843 Lock Keeper (Ins) Grimsbury, Northam Sarah Neal Wife Married Female 36 1845 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England William T G Neal Son Single Male 16 1865 Boatman Staffordshire, England Mary A Neal Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Scholar Staffordshire, England Clara Neal Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Darlaston, Staffordshire George E Neal Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Essex, England Thomas Neal Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Staffordshire, England Elizabeth Neal Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - Staffordshire, England Ada Annie Neal Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Darlaston, Staffordshire, Sara Ellen Neal Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - West Bromwich, Staffordshire
EDIT: Place of birth for William junior looks like Staffordshire WELLINGSWORTH. His initials could also be JG
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greyghost
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28 Sep 2015 17:04 |
Is this the marriage you are looking at and the following census? What makes you think that this is "your William" as there are no other initials recorded.
If it is your family then William could well be away if he is a boatman on the canals.
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) WILLIAM Last name NEALE Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1903 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM NEALE married one of these people JULIA LEE, EMMA MARY PLENTY District SOUTHWARK District number - County London Country England Volume 1D Page 301
---------------------------------- 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 58 Landseer Road Upper Holloway N, Islington, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Emma Mary Ann Neale Head Married Female Shop Assistant 35 1876 York Stret Bethnal Green Henry James Neale Son - Male Shop Assistant 6 1905 St Leonards Bronley by Bow
Married 8 years 1 child born
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Moira
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28 Sep 2015 17:05 |
That is the family
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Moira
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28 Sep 2015 17:08 |
Yes that is the marriage I am looking at, the barges travelled to London, so it would be possible I think
Emmas Family has shops when she was a child
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Sep 2015 17:10 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bromford Junction, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England William G Neale Head Married Male 48 1843 Lock Keeper Grimsby, Northamptonshire, England Transcription Sarah Neale Wife Married Female 46 1845 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Transcription George E Neale Son Single Male 18 1873 Boatman Middlesex, England Transcription Thomas Neale Son Single Male 16 1875 Boatman Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Neale Daughter - Female 15 1876 - Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Transcription Ada A Neale Daughter - Female 13 1878 General Servant Domestic Darlaston Green, Staffordshire, England Transcription Sarah E Neale Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Staffordshire, England Transcription Selina Neale Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Transcription
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greyghost
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28 Sep 2015 17:11 |
?? Could this be him 1891
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Coppice, Tipton, Dudley, Staffordshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Neal Head Married Male 27 1864 Boatman Tipton, Staffordshire, England Sarah Neal Wife Married Female 23 1868 - Oldbury, Worcestershire, England Lucy Smith Sister In Law Single Female 6 1885 Scholar Tipton, Staffordshire, England Phoebe Smith Sister In Law Single Female 17 1874 Domestic Servant Tipton, Staffordshire, England
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Moira
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28 Sep 2015 17:13 |
It is William T G Neale that I cannot find any trace of, I wonder if he just did not register for the census if he was in a barge at the times of the census
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Moira
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28 Sep 2015 17:16 |
Hello Greyghost, it could be I have his birth as 1865 Wellingworth Staffordshire
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malyon
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28 Sep 2015 17:21 |
is this him says record type vessel
William Neal England and Wales Census, 1911 Name William Neal Event Type Census Event Date 1911 County Middlesex Parish Isleworth Sub-District Isleworth Registration District Brentford Gender Male Age 45 Birthplace Stafford Wednesbury, Staffordshire Record Type Vessel
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28 Sep 2015 17:26 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) William Last name Neal Relationship Master Marital status Married Sex Male Occupation Master Canal Boat Age 45 Birth year 1866 Birth place Stafford Wednesbury Address The Canal Brentford Lock Parish Isleworth County Middlesex Country England Vessel name BOXMOOR Archive reference RG14 Registration district Brentford Registration district number 128 Enumeration district 1 District number - Sub district Isleworth Sub district number 1 Census reference RG14PN6806 RG78PN340 RD128 SD1 ED1 SN80 Piece number 6806 Folio -
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Moira
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28 Sep 2015 17:27 |
That might be a , there is a canal at Isleworth Maylon It is a difficult one this because I cannot be sure
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greyghost
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28 Sep 2015 17:30 |
More info on the part census posted by Malyon
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
First name(s) William Last name Neal Relationship Master Marital status Married Sex Male Occupation Master Canal Boat Age 45 Birth year 1866 Birth place Stafford Wednesbury Address The Canal Brentford Lock Parish Isleworth County Middlesex Country England Vessel name BOXMOOR Archive reference RG14 Registration district Brentford Registration district number 128 Enumeration district 1 District number - Sub district Isleworth Sub district number 1 Census reference RG14PN6806 RG78PN340 RD128 SD1 ED1 SN80 Piece number 6806 Folio - Page -
Original shows Wife Sarah Neal aged 43 b Oldbury, Stafford and Samuel ? Oteveus adopted son aged 4 b Southall Middlesex
Married 20 years no children
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malyon
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28 Sep 2015 17:34 |
i cant see a william born with middle name t g and on his marriage just the name william
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Sep 2015 17:39 |
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William T Neale Birth Date: abt 1865 Date of Registration: Sep 1945 Age at Death: 80 Registration district: Warwick Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 735
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MarieCeleste
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28 Sep 2015 17:43 |
I suspect this may be his birth:
Births Dec 1864 NEALE William James George Dudley 6c 78
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AustinQ
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28 Sep 2015 17:43 |
On the 1881 his initials could read J G
Birth: Name: William James George Neale Registration Year: 1864 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Dudley Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6c Page: 78
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AustinQ
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28 Sep 2015 17:54 |
Sorry Marie- I see you got there first!
I was looking for William junior in 1871 to see if any initials were on it, but can't see him.
This is the sister:
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Willenhall Road, Darlaston, Walsall, Staffordshire, England
James Budd Head - Male 56 1815 - Staffordshire, England Mary Budd Wife - Female 58 1813 - Montgomeryshire, Wales Mary Budd Daughter - Female 20 1851 - Staffordshire, England William J Lunn Grandson - Male 5 1866 - Staffordshire, England Mary A Neale Granddaughter - Female 5 1866 - Staffordshire, England
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greyghost
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28 Sep 2015 17:54 |
If William who married Sarah is the correct one, then this could be the marriage as there are Smith in-laws with them on the 1891 census. The marriage certificate would give his name, age and occupation and also name his Father and his occupation
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) WILLIAM Last name NEAL Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1889 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM NEAL married one of these people SARAH SMITH ELLEN PARKER District DAVENTRY District number - County Northamptonshire Country England Volume 3B Page 250
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AustinQ
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28 Sep 2015 18:01 |
So who's daughter is Ruth?
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Top Lack Spon Lane West Bromwich, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
William George Neal Head Married Male Lock Maker 68 1843 Grimsby Northamptonshire Sarah Neal Wife Married Female - 66 1845 Wednesbury Staf Elizabeth Neal Daughter Single Female - 35 1876 Sedgley Staf Ruth Neal Granddaughter - Female School 12 1899 Oldbury Worstershire
Erased the 1901 as I wasn't sure it was correct
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