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Anne
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20 Sep 2015 10:10 |
I am trying to trace Lena and her siblings. She was the youngest of fifteen children born to Michael Gildea/Gilder and Mary Kiernan.
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Andrew
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20 Sep 2015 10:42 |
I can't see a birth record for her or find her in 1901 census. Nor can I see a marriage for her parents.
Do you have other info? Names of siblings, census records etc.
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MargaretM
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20 Sep 2015 10:47 |
A tree on Ancestry says she died 11 Mar. 1979, Melbourne, Australia. Mother's name Mary Tiernan.
She married William Henry Howden (1897-1939), 2 children, boy & girl, private.
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AnnCardiff
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20 Sep 2015 10:48 |
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Name Patrick Gildea Event Type Probate Event Date 09 Apr 1895 Event Place Clare Beneficiary's Name Mary Gildea
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20 Sep 2015 10:49 |
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Name Martin Columba Gildea Event Type Burial Event Date 1964 Event Place Kilrush, , County Clare, Ireland Birth Date 1907 Death Date 04 Oct 1964 Affiliate Record Identifier 59635783 Cemetery New Shanakyle Cemetery
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Sep 2015 10:52 |
could this be her? Ireland Deaths 1864 - 1958 Transcription
First name(s) Lena Last name Gildea Birth year 1900 Age at death 13 Registered year 1913 Registered quarter/year Jul - Sep 1918 Registration district Claremorris Volume 4 Page 93 Country Ireland Record set Irish Deaths 1864 - 1958 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Ireland
EDIT not the right girl then !!!
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MargaretM
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20 Sep 2015 10:52 |
Mother's name Mary Kiernan here:
Lena Gertrude Howden
in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985 Record Image Index-only record
Name: Lena Gertrude Howden Birth Year: abt 1901 Age: 78 Death Place: Chel, Victoria Father's name: Michael Gilder Mother's name: Mary Kiernan Registration Year: 1979 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 6965
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MargaretM
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20 Sep 2015 11:44 |
I can't see the family on the 1901 or 1911 census in Ireland.
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Anne
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20 Sep 2015 12:59 |
I can only confirm that she died in Australia in 1979, but like you I have been unable to find any reference to her family in Ireland. Would you suggest that I contact the Registry office covering County Clare?
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ArgyllGran
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20 Sep 2015 13:09 |
Possibly one of her sisters:
Bridget Gildea
in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 Name: Bridget Gildea Gender: Female Birth Date: 2 Mar 1880 Birth Place: Whitegate, Galway & Clare, Ireland Father's name: Michael Gildea Mother's name: Mary Gildea Tierney FHL Film Number: 256047
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ArgyllGran
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20 Sep 2015 13:13 |
A subscription here might help you ?
http://clare.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=sources.tpl&selectedMenu=sources
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MargaretM
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20 Sep 2015 13:26 |
How do you know that she was the youngest of 15 children, Anne?
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ArgyllGran
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20 Sep 2015 13:27 |
Possibly the deaths of Bridget and some siblings?? Whitegate is in Scarriff district.
Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries Name: Bridget Gildea Birth: abt 1880 Death: Mar 1880 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries Name: Denis Gildea Birth: abt 1881 Death: Dec 1912 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries Name: Kate Gildea Birth: abt 1886 Death: Dec 1886 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries Name: Michael Gildea Birth: abt 1886 Death: Sep 1889 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries Name: Martin Gildea Birth: abt 1894 Death: Mar 1921 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries Name: Patrick Gildea Birth: abt 1896 Death: Jun 1897 - Scarriff
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ArgyllGran
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20 Sep 2015 13:27 |
And births ??
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Birth, Baptism & Christening Name: Bridget Gildea Birth: Mar 1880 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Birth, Baptism & Christening Name: Anne Gildea Birth: Jun 1881 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Birth, Baptism & Christening Name: Thomas Gildea Birth: Dec 1883 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Birth, Baptism & Christening Name: Kate Gildea Birth: Jun 1886 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Birth, Baptism & Christening Name: Michael Gildea Birth: Jun 1887 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Birth, Baptism & Christening Name: Margaret Gildea Birth: Mar 1890 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Birth, Baptism & Christening Name: William Gildea Birth: Jun 1892 - Scarriff Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Birth, Baptism & Christening Name: Ellen Gildea Birth: Sep 1894 - Scarriff
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alviegal
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20 Sep 2015 18:53 |
Howden Lena Gertrude — — 1939 Electoral Rolls Victoria, Australia
Here she is with William Henry Howden at 2 Gamble Street, Blyth. He is a constable.
There is an Edna Gladys and Herbert Edward Howden, labourer, living at 23 Ryan Street. Also a Robert Loyal Howden, labourer of 24 Thomas street mentioned. No idea if connected or not.
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alviegal
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20 Sep 2015 18:59 |
Victoria Marriages 1836-1942 Transcription
Learn more Print transcription First name(s) Lena Gerte Last name Gildea Sex Female Marriage year 1923 Spouse's first name(s) William Henry Spouse's last name Howden State Victoria Country Australia Registration number 8329 Record set Victoria Marriages 1836-1942
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mgnv
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20 Sep 2015 23:18 |
Whitegate is abt 10km E of Scarriff, and abt 1km from the shore of Lough Derg which forms the boundary between Clare & Tipperary Abt 2km N of Whitegate is Co Galway, so then the Lough forms the boundary between Galway & Tipperary. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
1901 Residents of a house 6 in Whitegate (Drummaan, Clare) Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Kildea Michael 50 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic County Galway Agricultural Labourer Read and write English Married - Kildea Mary 48 Female Wife Roman Catholic County Galway - Read and write English Married - Kildea Thomas 17 Male Son Roman Catholic County Galway Agricultural Labourer Read and write English Not Married - Kildea Margaret 10 Female Daughter Roman Catholic County Galway - Read and write English Not Married - Kildea Ellen 6 Female Daughter Roman Catholic County Galway - - English Not Married - Kildea Martin 4 Male Son Roman Catholic County Galway - - English Not Married -
View census images Household Return (Form A) Other original census images available Enumerator's abstract (Form N) House and Building Return (Form B1) Out-Offices and Farm-Steadings Return (Form B2)
There's a link to the census image (Form A) but if you also look at Form N - you'll see the poor-law union is Scarriff
In Ireland (& England) the civil registration districts were initially based on the poor-law unions.
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20 Sep 2015 23:26 |
Anne...You don't say where you obtained the exact date of birth for Lena Gertrude Gildea and that she was one of 15 children to Michael and Mary.....
Like the others I have been unable to find any birth to correspond with info.you have posted ..the following is what I have found and may be "Lena's" family although where the Gertrude comes in I don't know....
1901 CensusResidents of a house 6 in Whitegate (Drummaan, Clare)
Kildea Michael 50 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic County Galway Agricultural Labourer Read and write English Married - Kildea Mary 48 Female Wife Roman Catholic County Galway - Read and write English Married - Kildea Thomas 17 Male Son Roman Catholic County Galway Agricultural Labourer Kildea Margaret 10 Female Daughter Roman Catholic County Galway - Kildea Ellen 6 Female Daughter Roman Catholic County Galway - - Kildea Martin 4 Male Son Roman Catholic County Galway The above family are still there 1911 Census (cannot access site at present)..
State they have been married 43yrs and have had 14 children 6 still living... "Ellen" is now Helena and they list their place of birth as Co Clare ...
Further searching around shows Michaels wife to be Mary Tierney . Earlier children born to this couple were : Michael Sept.1870 Honoria 1876 John 1877 Bridget 1880
Haven't had time to look for the others but the ones listed were all Baptised in Clonrush which was the Civil Parish for Whitehead...
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Anne
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21 Sep 2015 07:36 |
I was told by Lena's grandson that she was the youngest of fifteen children and that she was born on 20/4/1900 in County Clare.
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Eringobragh1916
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21 Sep 2015 08:11 |
Anne. You need to find out from Lena's grandson if he has her Birth/Baptismal Cert.or from what source he has a specific Birthdate.... When did Lena go to Australia..was she alone or with Family...? What is your relationship to Lena...?
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