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cane

cane Report 13 Nov 2015 12:02

Thanks Chris & Sylvia...I have never been able to trace William (1856c) on the 1911 census, Sarah Ann states that she is still married, please could you help..Thanks

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Nov 2015 08:20

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/1163519

(above has some Baptisms, and states " sarah ann walsh married william smith 1875")


https://services.salford.gov.uk/forum/forumposts.asp?forum=21&id=104722

(another couple on above)

Chris :)

(so below is Amy then, looking at 1881 posted)

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html


Baptism: 26 Nov 1884 St Clement, Salford, Lancashire, England
Amy Smith - [Child] of William Smith & Sarah Ann
Born: 6 Sep 1884
Abode: 114 Granville Street
Occupation: Painter
Notes: Chd. Sep 24 84
Baptised by: C. V. Merriman
Register: Baptisms 1877 - 1884, Page 44, Entry 2036
Source: LDS Film 1786422



SylviaInCanada Report 17 Jul 2009 04:05

Looking back at earlier censuses could give the names of some children who survived birth but died young.


1881 Census

Name: Sarah A. Smith
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 114 Granville St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Wife

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road

William Smith 25 b.ca 1856, Manchester, Painter
Sarah A. Smith 24
Henry Smith 4 b.ca 1877, Salford
Ann Smith 1 b.ca 1880, Salford
Henry Smith 53 b.ca 1828, Cowling, Yorkshire, Widower, Father, Shoe Maker
Mary J. Welch 19 Boarder

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2015 23:48

some of the children might have been stillbirths, and so there would be no record of them

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Nov 2015 22:58

Can I ask -
how do you know it's a different family?

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

cane

cane Report 12 Nov 2015 17:26

thanks...yes I ive come across the baptisms with William and sarah (this is not the right family...Only where mother is sarah ann

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Nov 2015 17:11

Possible death of Walter, as he's not with the family in 1891 :

Deaths Dec 1890 (>99%)
Smith Walter 0 Salford 8d 53

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Nov 2015 17:02

Sarah Smith

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:28 July 1886
Chapelry of St. Clement, Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England
residence:Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England
father:William Smith
mother:Sarah Ann

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Nov 2015 17:01

Some different dates from those you quoted in your opening post:

Henry Smith

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:13 August 1892
Parish of St. Clement, Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England
residence:Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England
father:William Smith
mother:Sarah




Amy Smith

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:26 November 1884
Chapelry of St. Clement, Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England
residence:Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England
father:William Smith
mother:Sarah Ann



Ethel Smith

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:26 January 1887
Chapelry of St. Clement, Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England
residence:Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England
father:William Smith
mother:Sarah Ann

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Nov 2015 16:55

I don't think this one's been mentioned before:

Walter Smith

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:14 May 1890
Parish of St. Clement, Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England
residence:Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England
father:William Henry Smith
mother:Sarah

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

cane

cane Report 12 Nov 2015 16:41

Thanks for nudging Argyllgran......Still need help on this one peeps x

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Nov 2015 16:38

Further info requested by Cane:

"Ime not too sure if ive done a request for this before....my gt,gt grandparents had 17 children, they were all (as far as i know) baptised at st clements ordsall form 1875 - 1900...i just need to find four and i have them all %3A-%29 Their parents were william and sarah ann smith, william is a painter..."

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1356112

EDIT:
Cane has now deleted that new thread, which had no new info on it.

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

cane

cane Report 19 Sep 2015 19:41

five made it to adulthood and had children x

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 19 Sep 2015 18:53

I see, on the1911 census, she'd had 17 children but 12 had died!!! Can you imagine losing 12 children?

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Sep 2015 17:57

Name: Ernest Smith
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1881
Baptism Place: St. Bartholomew, Salford, Lancashire, England
Father: William Smith
Mother: Sarah Ann
FHL Film Number: 1786460
Reference ID: yr 1880-1881 p 191

ERNEST
Last name SMITH
Birth year 1881
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District SALFORD
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8D
Page 13
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Sep 2015 17:54

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
Print transcription View image
First name(s) ERNEST
Last name SMITH
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1905
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ERNEST SMITH married one of these people
MARY JACKSON, ELIZABETH ANN PALMER
District SALFORD
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8D
Page 127
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Sep 2015 17:52

Ernest 1911 ??
Name: Ernest Smith
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford
Search Photos: Search for 'Salford' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 15 North Street Hope Street Salford
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Brewers Carter
Registration district: Salford
Registration District Number: 465
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 24017
Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest Smith 30
Elizabeth Ann Smith 25
Gladys Smith

married 6 years i child living, i died

cane

cane Report 19 Sep 2015 17:52

yes maddie...The William 1856 is sarah ann`s hubby...

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

cane

cane Report 19 Sep 2015 17:49

on that 191 census the Leny is Lena (Selina)

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

cane

cane Report 19 Sep 2015 17:46

yes Margee, right census
William and sarah were married in Salford ordsall 1875

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Sep 2015 17:40

Name: William Smith
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 8 Nov 1875
Marriage Place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England
Spouse: Sarah Ann Walsh
FHL Film Number: 438234, 438235, 438236, 438237

Name: Selina Smith
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 3 Apr 1889
Baptism Place: Chapelry of St Clement, Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire, England
Father: William Smith
Mother: Sarah Ann
FHL Film Number: 1786422

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