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Herbert Richard Charles Carn born 1872 in Kingston. Married Ada Isabel Nethercott (born 1865 Lambeth) in 1895 Wandsworth. They had two children Herbert & Frank. Herbert R C went to America in 1908 (+ - 1 year) alone and stayed there.....apart from he didn't! He died in Torquay Jan 1948 Herbert R C Corrie otherwise Herbert R C Carn. Widow of the deceased L B Corrie. I can't find out anything about Herbert R C between the 1901 census and his death, neither can I find anything about L B Corrie other than her name is Laura and she married a BALL later in 1948. I hope somebody can advise me what to do next. Many Thanks Rachel

i think this is richard in census 1901


Name Herbert Richd Chas Carn
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey, England
County Surrey
Civil Parish Kingston Upon Thames
Ecclesiastical Parish Norbiton St Peters
Sub-District Kingston
Registration District Kingston
Gender Male
Age 29
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1872
Birthplace Kingston, Surrey
Schedule Type 12

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England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
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First name(s) HERBERT RICHARD C
Last name CARN
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1895
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ HERBERT RICHARD C CARN married one of these people
CATHERINE MINNIE BENNETT, AMELIA MARY SHEPPARD
District WANDSWORTH
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Page 785


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Name: Herbert Richard C Carn
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Wandsworth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 786
Records on Page:
Name
Herbert Richard C Carn
Ada Isabel Nethercote
Elizabeth Southon
Alfred Francis Turner


There seems to have been a mixup with the page numbers.

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) HERBERT R C
Last name CARN
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1872
Age 76
Death quarter 1
Death year 1948
District NEWTON ABBOT
County Devon
Volume 7A
Page 516
Country England


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First name(s) HERBERT R C
Last name CORRIE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1872
Age 76
Death quarter 1
Death year 1948
District NEWTON ABBOT
County Devon
Volume 7A
Page 516

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Herbert R C Carn
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name Herbert R C Carn
Age (Original) 9
Gender Male
Birth Year 1872
Birthplace Kingston, Surrey, England
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Marital Status Single
Occupation Scholar
Address Clarence St
Event Place Kingston, Surrey, England
Record Type Household
Affiliate Publication Number RG11
Piece/Folio 835 / 35
Page Number 9
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

William Carn Head M 40 Ham, Surrey, England
Caroline Carn Wife F 45 Kingston, Surrey, England
Herbert R C Carn Son M 9 Kingston, Surrey, England
William King Assistant M 21 Marylebone, Middlesex, England
John M Peats Apprent M 16 Stoke Newington, Middlesex, England
Jane Jacobs Servant F 21 Watdegness ?, Berkshire, England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
40, Cromwell Road, Kingston on Thames, Kingston upon Thames, Kingston, Surrey, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Herbert Richd Chas Carn Head Married Male 29 1872 Pawnbroker Kingston on Thames, Surrey, England
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Ada Isabelle Carn Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Kennington, Surrey, England
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Herbert Victor Wm Carn Son - Male 4 1897 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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Frank Clement Carn Son - Male 2 1899 - Kingston on Thames, Surrey, England




1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
28 Morval Road Brixton S W, Lambeth, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Henry Restall Head Married Male House Carpenter 69 1842 Chelsea Middlesex
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Elizabeth Restall Wife Married Female - 78 1833 Brixton Surrey
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Ada Carn Boarder Married Female House Keeper Domestic 39 1872 Kennington
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Frank Carn Boarder - Male - 12 1899 Kingston on Thames



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
West Street Midhurst, Midhurst, Sussex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Albert Goldring Head Married Male Seedsman-Florist And Fruiterer 39 1872 Singleton Sussex
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Rosa May Goldring Wife Married Female Assisting In The Business 40 1871 Claphan S U
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Frederick Goldring Son - Male - 14 1897 Lee Kent
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May Goldring Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Midhurst Sussex
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Annie Nettercote Sister-In Law Single Female Housekeeper 37 1874 Clapham S U
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>>Herbert Carn Nephew - Male Shop Assistant 14 1897 Dudley Burmingham

Name Herbert R C Carn
Age (Original) 9
Gender Male
Birth Year 1872
Birthplace Kingston, Surrey, England
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Marital Status Single
Occupation Scholar
Address Clarence St
Event Place Kingston, Surrey, England
Record Type Household
Affiliate Publication Number RG11
Piece/Folio 835 / 35
Page Number 9



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

William Carn Head M 40 Ham, Surrey, England
Caroline Carn Wife F 45 Kingston, Surrey, England
Herbert R C Carn Son M 9 Kingston, Surrey, England
William King Assistant M 21 Marylebone, Middlesex, England
John M Peats Apprent M 16 Stoke Newington, Middlesex, England
Jane Jacobs Servant F 21 Watdegness ?, Berkshire, England

How do you now that Herbert Corrie is same person as Herbert Carn ?



Name:
Herbert Corrie (Salesman)

Birth Date:abt 1871
Age:65

Port of Departure:Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date:1 Aug 1936
Port of Arrival:London, England
Ports of Voyage:Montreal

Ship Name:Aurania
Shipping line:Cunard White Star

Official Number:147277


Travelling with Laura Corrie aged 45
Address going to :33 Monpelur Street, Brighton

He's still in England here.

Name: Herbert Richard Charles Carn
Year: 1910
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Kingston
Place of Abode: 14 Sussex road
Reference Number: CC802/21/1


Name: Herbert Richard Charles Carn
Year: 1909
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Kingston
Place of Abode: 17 Clarence street
Reference Number: CC802/20/1




Name: Herbert Richard Charles Carn
Year: 1906
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Kingston
Place of Abode: 40 Cromwell road
Reference Number: CC802/17/1


Name: Herbert Carn
Year: 1905
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Kingston
Place of Abode: 40, Cromwell road
Reference Number: CC802/16/1



Name: Herbert Richard Carn
Year: 1903
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Kingston
Place of Abode: 40, Cromwell road
Reference Number: CC802/14/1



Name: Herbert Richard Carn
Year: 1902
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Kingston
Place of Abode: 40, Cromwell road
Reference Number: CC802/13/1


Name: Herbert Richard Carn
Year: 1899
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Kingston
Place of Abode: 87, King's road
Reference Number: CC802/10/1

This is the Mr. Carn who went to America in 1908 (but this one is a miner):-

First name(s) H
Last name CARN
Title MR
Gender Male
Marital status S
Occupation MINER
Departure year 1908
Departure day 10
Departure month 10
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name MAURETANIA
Ship official number 124093
Ship master's first name J
Ship master's last name PRITCHARD
Shipping line CUNARD
City LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 27897
Ship registered tonnage 8947
Number of passengers 1020
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

Kath. x

Burial records : Carn, Caroline
Age 65 Years
Date of death 25/06/1900

(you can see Burial Register image, on below)

http://www.kingston.gov.uk/directory_record/108838/carn_caroline

Chris :)

Carn, Hannah
Carn, Richard
Carn, William
Carn, John
Carn, Walter
Carn, William
Carne, Alice

(above are others, but 'Search' doesn't seem to work, although, coming up on google!)

http://www.kingston.gov.uk/directory/20/burial_records

(normally above!)

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 (Find My Past)

(to match 'Incoming' posted by Mike perhaps, on above, Corri Herbert and Laura, 1934 to Montreal)

(87, Portsdown Road, Maida Vale, London. occ. Storekeeper, age 64, her age 44, Housekeeper)

Chris :)


Deaths Jun 1956 (>99%)
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Ball Laura B 64 Totnes 7a 753

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=ball&yearOfDeath=1956&page=6#calendar

(also on above Probate, Samuel 1978)


Births Dec 1904 (>99%)
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Ball Samuel Richard H Wandsworth 1d 653

(his Birth)

There are 2 Canadian arrivals in 1934:

Herbert Corri in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Herbert Corri
Gender: Male
Age: 64
Birth Year: abt 1870
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 18 Nov 1934
Vessel: Montrose
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Southampton, England

Travelling with Laura (age 44). Both had been in Canada from Feb 1910 to Oct 1934, home address 1582? Queen Street W, Toronto.

The earlier one was in January, information the same.

I'd suggest buying the certificate for Laura's remarriage to see what her maiden name was.

Could be useful to trace her going to Canada to connect her to Herbert.

Herbert R Corri

in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
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Name: Herbert R Corri
Birth Date: abt 1870
Age: 64
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 6 Oct 1934
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
Ship Name: Antonia
Search Ship Database: Search for the Antonia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard White Star
Official Number: 145937

Travelling with Laura B, 43. Maidavale, London was their proposed address and he was a confectioner.



Harbert Corri

in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
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Name: Harbert Corri
Birth Date: abt 1871
Age: 67
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 13 Nov 1938
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
Ship Name: Alaunia
Search Ship Database: Search for the Alaunia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard White Star
Official Number: 147315


He was retired, travelling with Laura 48 and their proposed address was 18 King's park rd, Southampton.



Did he change his name for some reason? This is very strange. Can find no earlier records of a Herbert R C Corri.

Death for Ada.

First name(s) ADA I
Last name CARN
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1866
Age 90
Death quarter 1
Death year 1956
District WANDSWORTH
County London
Volume 5D
Page 981

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965


Name: Ada Isabel Carn
Year: 1918
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Wandsworth
Street address: 27 Emily


with Herbert Victor.


Name: Ada Isabel Carn
Year: 1938
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Balham and Tooting and Central


With Herbert Victor and Florence Lily.



Name: Ada I Carn
Year: 1948
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Balham and Tooting and Central
Street address: 86 Olive


With Florence L and Herbert V.


So no sign of her husband who, we know, died in 1948.



Name: Ada I Carn
Year: 1949
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Clapham and Central

With Florence L and Herbert V W.



Name: Ada I Carn
Year: 1952
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Clapham and Central
Street address: 80 Oil


Still with Florence and Herbert.

Welcome to the Community Boards Rachel.



(I'll let Rachel know how to find her replies) :-)

Thanks for all your help. I have lots of leads to follow. I am off to Devon on Saturday! I will keep you posted. It's so interesting.

I can I see a passenger list? Alviegal I can see you have reference numbers by Herbert 1903, 1905, 1906, 1909 and 1910 what do these relate to?I have tried looking him up on 1911 census but still can't find him? Thanks again everyone!