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Hi Tony

This is the info you need to send for the death certificate

Name:Thomas Conlan

Registration Year:1849

Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec

Registration district:Stepney

Inferred County:London

Volume:2 <<<<ref number

Page:410 <<<<ref number


You can order the death certificate online here

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

You need to register first (it's free) When you enter the death details, tick the box that says you have the gro reference number and then follow the instructions

The cost is £9.25

Hi Malyon

That info is on the first post

William Conlan
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 25 December 1865 St. Thomas, Stepney, Middlesex, England
father: Thomas Conlan
spouse: Lydia Hews
other: Edwin Hews

Tony

You would need to buy the death certificate (1849) for Thomas

The informant would likely be a family member

How can I check this I am trying to find him on the census records after 1841
Tony

My thoughts too Chris

Tony, the fact that his father was not listed as deceased does not mean he was living

In fact the other way around applies too. My uncles father 'was' listed as deceased on his marriage certificate and in fact he was very much alive and kicking!

(PM received also)

the william in the reported robbery is from a different family he was born in 1834 my William was born in 1841

Tony

Chris :)

Hmm... seems a bit odd somewhere!, have seen many a Marriage Cert. with Father named, although 'Deceased' not added.

(Marriage on Ancestry, London also)

I have a Marriage certificate for William and Lydia Hews 1865 and his father
Thomas is a lighterman an still alive
Tony

Another PM from Tony


Hi
They are my GG/Granparents they rest are not al I have is on my Dads Baptisum record Ann conlan is is Mum she was the daughter of William and Lydia and I ashume their parents came from Ireland and I found some info it the Booth,s sick Asylum records Stepney Union pages 332 book B163 refering to page 530 about his parents but I could not find them

Tony

530 - 531. Case number 332: John Conlan, born 1838
532 - 533. Case number 333: William Conlan, born 1840
534. Case number 334: Ann Conlan, born 1872
535. Case number 335: William J. Conlan, born 1866

http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lensons/

(Reference Number: /BOOTH/B/162
Title: Inmates of Institutions Notebook: Stepney Union District No 1: Particulars of Cases. From google search)

Chris :)


FREDERICK CONLAN . I lived at 31, Ropemakers' Fields, Limehouse, in August, 1891—I remember the day after the August Bank Holiday

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18931016-name-152&div=t18931016-866#highlight


1891 (Find My Past)
Lidia Conlan Head Married Female 40 1851 Bottle Washer Ireland
Martha Conlan Daughter - Female 12 1879 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Amy Conlan Daughter - Female 10 1881 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Ada Conlan Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Street Ropemakers Fields (31)
Parish Limehouse
City Tower Hamlets
Registration district Stepney
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 296
Folio 36
Page 14


Watermen and Lightermen's company. Bum Boat Book, giving names, ages and addresses of owners and names and types of boats.

http://www.bargemen.co.uk/pdf/bum_boat.pdf

(Page Six)

1846 23rd Jany Thomas Conlan 52 5 Fox & Goose Yard, Wapping Wall, King James’ Stairs Yawl, Thomas


08 June 1854 - London Evening Standard - London, London, England

Police
THAMES - Daring Highway Robbery.— William Conlan, I9, a notorious thief, of villanous aspect, residing at Fox and Goose-yard, Shadwell...


https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def1-741-18540612&div=t18540612-741#highlight


Thames Watermen & Lightermen 1688-2010 (Find My Past)

JAMES Conlan — 1855 Cluer RATCLIFFE

JOHN Conlan — 1852 Haley RATCLIFFE

WILLIAM Conlan — 1863 Sheppard


First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name Conlan
Master's first name(s) James Christ'R
Master's last name Sheppard
Bound year 1863
Bound day 12
Bound month May
Where from notes Limehouse
Source Binding Records 1692-1949

http://search.lma.gov.uk/scripts/mwimain.dll/144/LMA_OPAC/web_detail/REFD+CLC~2FL~2FWA?SESSIONSEARCH


London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 (Ancestry)

John Conlun abt 1840 21 Apr 1845 St Paul, Shadwell Tower Hamlets Burial

(Abode, Fox & Goose Yard. Age 5)


Deaths Jun 1845 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------
CONLAM John Stepney 2 344


(something not adding up with this family!)

2 PMs from Tony


2) NOT THE SAME FAMILY

1) NOT HIS DAD


I've asked Tony to reply on here with any other information that he has


Added: Tony, the census information gives Middlesex as the birth place for both William and Lydia

This looks like the death of his father



Deaths Dec 1849

Conlan Thomas Stepney 2 410

Name:James Conlan

Record Type:Baptism

Baptism Date:3 Nov 1855 <<Born 1840

Father's name:
Thomas Conlan

Mother's name:
Ann Conlan

Parish or Poor Law Union:Shadwell, St Paul

Borough:Tower Hamlets

Register Type:Parish Registers

Name:John Conlan

Record Type:Baptism

Baptism Date:23 Jul 1851 <<Born 1834

Father's name:
Thomas Conlan

Mother's name:
Ann Conlan

Parish or Poor Law Union:Shadwell, St Paul

Borough:Tower Hamlets

Register Type:Parish Registers


They certainly took their time baptising the children!

Both baptisms have the same address as the 1841 census. Father is a 'coal whipper'

Name:William Conlan

Record Type:Baptism

Baptism Date:1 Apr 1863 <<<Born 1844

Father's name:
Thomas Conlan

Mother's name:Ann Conlan

Parish or Poor Law Union:Shadwell, St Paul

Borough:Tower Hamlets

Register Type:Parish Registers

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Fox and Goose Yard, St Paul Shadwell, Stepney, Middlesex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Conlan Male 45 1796 Ireland
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Ann Conlan Female 35 1806 Ireland
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Thomas Conlan Male 13 1828 Middlesex, England
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Patrick Conlan Male 11 1830 Middlesex, England
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Margaret Conlan Female 9 1832 Middlesex, England
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William Conlan Male 7 1834 Middlesex, England
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James Conlan Male 4 1837 Middlesex, England
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John Conlan Male 2 1839 Middlesex, England
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Ann Conlan Female 0 1841 Middlesex, England

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Fox and Goose Yard, Saint Paul Shadwell, Stepney, Middlesex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ann Conlan Head Widow Female 45 1806 Hawker Ireland
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William Conlan Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Sells Beer On The River Shadwell, Middlesex, England
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Jas Conlan Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Sells Beer On The River Shadwell, Middlesex, England
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Ann Conlan Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1841 Scholar Shadwell, Middlesex, England
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Timy Sullivan Lodger Unmarried Male 17 1834 Ballast Heaver Shadwell, Middlesex, England
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John Fox Lodger Unmarried Male 17 1834 Sailor North Shields, Northumberland, England

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Name:William Coulam

Age:22

Estimated birth year:1839

Relation:Son (Child)

Mother's name:Ann Coulam

Gender:Male

Where born:Shadwell, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish:Limehouse

Ecclesiastical parish:St Anne

County/Island:Middlesex


Registration district:Stepney

Sub-registration district:Limehouse

ED, institution, or vessel:15

Household schedule number:174
Piece:288
Folio:15
Page Number:32

Household Members:

John Barber 40
George Barber 15
Ellen Barber 10
William Barber 9
Caroline Barber 5
Peter Emgelly 24
Ester Emgelly 6
George Mingay 41
Emma Bright 30
William Bright 13
James Bright 11
Charles Bright 6
Ann Coulam 56
John Coulam 27
William Coulam 22 <<<<<<Dock labourer (same occ on MC)
Timothy Tarry 56
James Neat 53
William Wallington 38
William Chandler 23
Rebecca Fred 27
Thomas Popham 20

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14, Princes Place, Limehouse, Stepney, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Conlan Head Married Male 40 1841 Laborer Dock Shadwell, Middlesex, England
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Lydia Conlan Wife Married Female 30 1851 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
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William Conlan Son Single Male 14 1867 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
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Jane Conlan Daughter Single Female 13 1868 - Poplar, Middlesex, England
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Rose Conlan Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Ratcliff, Middlesex, England
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Ann Conlan Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Limehouse, Middlesex, England
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Fred Conlan Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Limehouse, Middlesex, England
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Martha Conlan Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Stevens Buildings, Stepney, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Conlan Head - Male 30 1841 - Middlesex, England
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Lydia Conlan Wife - Female 22 1849 - Middlesex, England
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William Conlan Son - Male 5 1866 - Middlesex, England
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Jane Conlan Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Middlesex, England
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Rose Conlan Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Middlesex, England