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Hi all,
If anyone could help me i would be v. grateful. The above, joined the Military in 1914. I have a photograph of him in uniform taken at Curragh Camp, Ireland, dated September 1914.
I dont know his regiment or number, but as he was not at home, or anywhere else that i have found in the 1911 census, i wonder if he enlisted before 1914.

I know he survived the WW1, as i knew him in later years.

So any information, as regards whereabouts in 1911 or military info. would be good.

I have his later life, i.e. wife and children. So thats taken care of thanks.

Sue

Sorry, not seeing any records for him on Ancestry.

Is this a different Edward John in 1911 please?

Edward John Martin
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Anstey, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Anstey Meesden
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street address: Flint Hall Anstey Buntingford, Herts
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Labourer Farm
Registration district: Royston
Registration District Number: 135
Sub-registration district: Buntingford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 7524
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Martin 48
Eliza Martin 52
Edward John Martin 23
Gertie Mary Martin 14
Louisa Ada Martin 12

He should be in the 1901 census of Anstey Hertfordshire, with Father Arthur and mother Sarah Ann. plus siblings.

Have you found him in earlier censuses?
Who were his parents?

???? this is the only one I can see, though different YOB:

Edward John Martin

in the 1911 England Census

Name: Edward John Martin
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Anstey, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Anstey Meesden
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street address: Flint Hall Anstey Buntingford, Herts
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Labourer Farm
Registration district: Royston
Registration District Number: 135
Sub-registration district: Buntingford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 7524
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Martin 48
Eliza Martin 52
Edward John Martin 23
Gertie Mary Martin 14
Louisa Ada Martin 12

Edward John Martin
Registration Year: 1887
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Royston
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 453

OK - just for our reference:


Edward Martin

in the 1901 England Census
Name: Edward Martin
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Father: Arthur Martin
Mother: Sarah Ann Martin
Birth Place: Anstey, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Anstey
Ecclesiastical parish: Anstey
Town: Anstey
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: Royston
Sub-registration district: Buntingford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1291
Folio: 12
Page Number: 15
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Martin 50
Sarah Ann Martin 47
Albert Martin 24
Kenneth Martin 18
Barnard Martin 15
Daisy T Martin 12
Edward Martin 10
Bertie Martin 8
Richard Martin 2

1901

Edward Martin
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Father: Thomas Martin
Mother: Eliza Martin
Birth Place: Anstey, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Anstey
Ecclesiastical parish: Anstey
Town: Anstey
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Royston
Sub-registration district: Buntingford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1291
Folio: 12
Page Number: 15
Household schedule number: 78
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Martin 36
Eliza Martin 40
Edward Martin 13
Florence Martin 11
Edith Martin 9
Maude Martin 6
Gertrude Martin 4
Louisa Martin 2
Mary Skeggs

Sorry, no. Its rather confusing, but the Edward Martin, born 1888 Anstey is not the one. They lived very near each other though.!!

Edward John, 1891, is on 1891 c. and the 1901 c. his Father
Arthur, Mother Sarah Ann.

Apologies, Argyll Gran, yes you have it correct.

Edward Martin

in the 1891 England Census
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Name: Edward Martin
Age: 1/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: Arthur Martin
Mother's name: Sarah A Martin
Gender: Male
Where born: Anstey, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Anstey
Ecclesiastical parish: Anstey
Town: Anstey
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Royston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1100
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Martin 41
Sarah A Martin 38
Albert Martin 15
Ada Martin 11
Kenneth Martin 8
Barnet Martin 5
Daisy Martin 2
Edward Martin 1/12

Sorry, i have written several replies, but they do not seem to be on her.


Yes, the above information is correct., Margee.

Sue

No problem Sue. Not seeing matching birth reg for him. I was trying to check if his middle name was John.

What was his wife's name, please?
Just in case it's helpful as a clue!

You probably have this

Kenneth Martin
Birth Place: Austey, Herts
Residence: Wydial, Herts
Death Date: 23 Oct 1914
Death Place: Home
Enlistment Place: Royston, Herts
Rank: Private
Regiment: Bedfordshire Regiment
Battalion: 1st Battalion
Regimental Number: 7531
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Home
Other Records:

Rootgatherer. His middle name is definately John, as its on his headstone.

ArgyllGran, his wifes name was Ada Whyman, born in Nuthampstead. Off the top of my head i dont think they married until 1929, or thereabouts.

Rootgatherer. Yes, thats my Grandfather.!!!! Edward Johns' brother.


Sue

Presumably this is his birth:

Births Jun 1891 (>99%)
Martin Edward John Royston 3a 529

Yes, Argyll Gran, thats him.

According to the Army List of Sodiers Effects, your grandfather enlisted in 1903 so perhaps his brother also enlisted before WW1

Kenneth Martin
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Anstey Buntingford Herts
Death Date: 23 Oct 1914
Death Place: No 2 Northern Gen Hos Seeds
Rank: Private
Regiment: Bedfordshire Regiment
Regimental Number: 7531


Do you have the image of that record Sue or shall I send it to you by PM?

I need to go out soon but I will look back later.

Yes, thanks, i do have my g/fathers enlistment in 1903.



Sue