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Shirley_05
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23 Jun 2015 00:42 |
can someone find who her parents are please she was born 22 Apr 1911 in Neath Glamorgan Wales
or does the date fall short for finding mother surname
thank you
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Mike *
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23 Jun 2015 02:16 |
Mother's maiden name only on births index after 1911..
You may need to buy the certificate
Births Jun 1911 Clement Margaret L - Neath 11a 1026
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Mike *
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23 Jun 2015 02:20 |
and the 1911 census was taken on Sunday 2 April, 1911 so no luck there either..sorry
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23 Jun 2015 02:28 |
No parents given on famiysearch
Margaret Louisa Clement Event Type: Baptism Event Date: 31 May 1911 Event Place: Aberavon, Glamorganshire, Wales
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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23 Jun 2015 06:02 |
Did she have siblings born after 1911 if so their ref will show the mmn
Or any born pre 1911 so you can look for them on the census
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LondonBelle
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23 Jun 2015 06:43 |
Name Margaret Louise Clement Baptised 31 May 1911 Aberavon Father Thomas Samuel Clement occ Blacksmith Mother Elizabeth Abode Sandfields, Aberavon
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LondonBelle
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23 Jun 2015 06:51 |
Marriage 7 May 1910 Aberavon Groom Thomas Samuel Clement occ Blacksmith Age 24 Father Samuel Clement occ Engine Driver Address 27 St Mary's St Aberavon Bride Elizabeth Routliff Age 20 Father Elias Routliff occ Tinworker (looks like) Address 13 Pembroke Terrace Aberavon Witnesses George Frederick Harvey, Thomas Williams & Eva Gwendoline Clement
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LondonBelle
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23 Jun 2015 07:07 |
1911 census Thomas Clement Born Aberavon Glamorgan Age 25 Occupation Striker for Blacksmith Married 1 Year Elizabeth Clement (wife) Born Aberavon Age 21 Address 7 Sandfields Rd Aberavon
Also Thomas Routliff (brother in law) Born Aberavon Age 18 Occupation Coacher (?) In Tin works
Arthur Routliff (brother in law) Born Aberavon Age 16 Occupation Assisting Tin Man
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23 Jun 2015 07:08 |
Thomas Clement
Age in 1911:25
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1886
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Aberavon, Glamorganshire, Wales
Civil Parish:Aberavon
County/Island:Glamorgan
Country:Wales
Street address:7 Sandfield Road Aberavon
Marital Status:Married
Years Married:1
Estimated Marriage Year:1910
Occupation:Striker For Black Smith
Registration district:Neath
Registration District Number:592
Sub-registration district:Margam
ED, institution, or vessel:06 Household schedule number:7 Piece:32599
Household Members:
Thomas Clement 25 Elizebth Clement 21 Thomas Routliff 18 Arthur Routliff 16
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23 Jun 2015 07:31 |
Baptism Thomas Samuel Clement Date 10 March 1886 Father Samuel Clement occ Smith Mother Margaret Abode Aberavon
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23 Jun 2015 07:36 |
1901
Name:Edith Routliff
Age in 1901:12
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1889
Relation:Daughter (Child)
Father's name:Elias Routliff
Mother's name:Elizabeth L Routliff
Gender:Female
Where born:Aberavon, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish:Aberavon
Ecclesiastical parish:Aberavon St Mary
Town:Aberavon
County/Island:Glamorgan
Country:Wales Registration district:Neath
Sub-registration district:Margam
ED, institution, or vessel:16
Household schedule number:272 Piece:5053 Folio:183
Page Number:45
Household Members:
Elias Routliff 33 Elizabeth L Routliff 33 Edith Routliff 12 Elizabeth Routliff 11 William Routliff 9 Thomas Routliff 8 Arthur Routliff 6 Isaac Routliff 4 Sydney G Routliff 7 Months Mary Routliff 2
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23 Jun 2015 07:47 |
Baptism Elizabeth Routliff Date 6 Oct 1899 Father Elias Routliff occ Tinplate Worker Mother Elizabeth Abode Aberavon
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23 Jun 2015 08:08 |
Possible Marriage Mar 1888 Jones Elizabeth Neath 11a 739 Manchip Elizabeth Louisa Neath 11a 739 Rees William Neath 11a 739 Routliff Elias Neath 11a 739
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PricklyHolly
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23 Jun 2015 08:17 |
Elias Routliff in the 1911 Wales Census Name:Elias Routliff Age in 1911:43 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1868 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Birth Place:Calmstock, Devon, England Civil Parish:Aberavon County/Island:Glamorgan Country:Wales Street address:59 Cwmavon Road Marital Status:Married Years Married:23 Estimated Marriage Year:1888 Occupation:Tinplate Shearer Registration district:Neath Sub-registration district:Margam
Elias Routliff Head 1868 43 Male Married Tinplate Shearer Calmstock Devon England 59 Cwmavon Road Elizabeth Louisa Routliff Wife 1868 43 Female Married Landone Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road Isaac Routliff Son 1897 14 Male Labourer In Tinplate Works Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road Mary Routliff Daughter 1899 12 Female School Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road Sidney George Routliff Son 1901 10 Male School Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road Violete Evelyn Routliff Daughter 1902 9 Female School Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road Christrina May Routliff Daughter 1907 4 Female Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road Hubert Routliff Son 1909 2 Male Aberavon Glamorgan Wales 59 Cwmavon Road
Married 23 years.......11 children born and living
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23 Jun 2015 08:24 |
Marriage 20 Jun 1880 Aberavon Samuel Clement occ Blacksmith Age 22 Father William Clement occ Labourer Bride Margaret Morcombe Age 22 Father John Morcombe occ Pilot Witnesses John Clement & Annie Theresa (looks like) Clement Both living Aberavon
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PricklyHolly
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23 Jun 2015 08:31 |
Elias Routliff in the 1871 England Census Name:Elias Routliff Age:4 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1867 Relation:Son (Child) Father's name:William Routliff Mother's name:Mary Routliff Gender:Male Where born:Culmstock, Devon, England Civil Parish:Culmstock Ecclesiastical parish:Exeter Town:Culmstock County/Island:Devon Country:England Registration district:Wellington Sub-registration district:Culmstock
William Routliff Head 43 1828 Male Sumbridge Devon (Blacksmith) Mary Routliff Wife 44 1827 Female Molland Devon Thomas Routliff Son 8 1863 Male Hawkridge Somerset Elias Routliff Son 4 1867 Male Culmstock Devon Henry Routliff Brother-in-law 13 1858 Male Sumbridge Devon Sidney Wood Servant 19 1852 Male Hemyock Devon
Elias Routliff in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name:Elias Routliff Registration Year:1867 Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district:Wellington Inferred County:Somerset Volume:5c Page:371
Elias Routliff in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name:Elias Routliff Birth Date:abt 1868 Date of Registration:Mar 1925 Age at Death:57 Registration district:Neath Inferred County:Glamorganshire Volume:11a Page:1062
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23 Jun 2015 09:15 |
No birth showing for Elizabeth Louisa Manchip.
But there is for.....Elizabeth Louisa Manship.......
Elizabeth Louisa Manship in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name:Elizabeth Louisa Manship Registration Year:1867 Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district:Swansea Inferred County:Glamorgan Volume:11a Page:541
I can't see her as Manchip or Manship on any census records before her marriage.
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rootgatherer
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23 Jun 2015 12:15 |
Maybe?
1871
Lewisa Manship Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Daughter (Child) Father's name: Abraham Manship Mother's name: Sarah Manship Gender: Female Where born: Glamorganshire, Wales Civil Parish: Llangyfelach Town: Clase Lower County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Registration district: Swansea Sub-registration district: Llangyfelach ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 73 Piece: 5445 Folio: 69 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Abraham Manship 26, Occ. Copperman Sarah Manship 26 Lewisa Manship 3 Sarah Jane Manship 2 Elizabeth Manship 2 weeks
All born Glamorgan
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rootgatherer
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23 Jun 2015 12:23 |
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Abraham Manship Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Terah Manship Gender: Male Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: Margam Ecclesiastical parish: Margam Town: Tai bach County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Neath Sub registration district: Margam ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4457 Folio: 48 Page Number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Abraham Manship 46 Terah Manship 45 Terah J Manship 22 Elizabeth Manship 20 Margret Manship 18 Susana Manship 15 Josie Manship 10 Eliza Manship 8 Annie Manship 5 Miriam Manship 2
Both Terahs look like Sarah on the image.
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23 Jun 2015 12:37 |
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Abraham Mandrip Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Mandrip Gender: Male Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: Margam County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: 7 Greenfield No 2 Condition as to marriage: Married Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Neath Sub registration district: Margam ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5334 Folio: 44 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Abraham Mandrip 36 Sarah Mandrip 33 Lucy Mandrip 14 Sarah J. Mandrip 12 Margaret Mandrip 7 Susanah Mandrip 5 Mary Mandrip 3 Isaack Mandrip Samuel Mandrip 28 Elizabeth Mandrip
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