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Trying to find any Information on my Gt Grandmother on my mothers side, she was born about 1853 and died i think in 1894. she was married to a Richard Hutchinson and the info i have Gleaned about her, came from a little local history book called For The Love of Ada, which was about one of her daughters, do not really know anything about her, not even where she was born, could anyone help me. I know she died in Salford Lancashire.

Here's her marriage



Name:Mary Massey

Age:19

Birth Year:abt 1850

Marriage Date:12 Jun 1870

Parish:Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George

Father's name:John Massey

Spouse's Name:Richard Hutchinson

Spouse's Age:20

Spouse's Father's Name:Joseph Hutchinson

Archive Roll:737


Wit: William John & Rachel Massey

For reference:


Richard Hutchinson
in the Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 (Cathedral)


Name: Richard Hutchinson - Porter
Age: 19
Birth Year: abt 1851
Marriage Date: 12 Jun 1870
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: Joseph Hutchinson - Dresser
Spouse's Name: Mary Massey
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Father's Name: John Massey - Carter
Archive Roll: 737

Her address - 51 Vernon St, Ardwick
His address - 24 Gresham St, Openshaw.

Witnesses William John Massey, Rachel Massey.

NB - NO middle name for Mary !

Dea x

Name:Mary Hutchinson

Age:38

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1853

Relation:Wife

Spouse's Name:Richard Hutchinson

Gender:Female

Where born:
Awrnen Manchester, Lancashire, England
[Ardwick Manchester, Lancashire, England]

Civil Parish:Pendleton

Ecclesiastical parish:St Paul

County/Island:Lancashire

Registration district:Salford

Sub registration district:Pendleton

ED, institution, or vessel:25

Piece:3206
Folio:8
Page Number:9

Household Members:


Richard Hutchinson 39
Mary Hutchinson 38
Jane Hutchinson 18
Elizabeth Hutchinson 14
Mary Hutchinson 12
Hannah Hutchinson 9
Ida Hutchinson 1 <<<<Ada

These 'could' be relevant:

????
Baptism: 26 Nov 1851 St Simon and St Jude, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Mary Massey - [Child] of John Massey & Jane
Born: 25 Jul 1851
Abode: Lomas Street
Occupation: Carter
Baptised by: John Bywater
Register: Baptisms 1849 - 1865, Page 485, Entry 3877
Source: LDS Family Search


Looks like William John was her brother?

Baptism: 24 May 1848 St Silas, Ardwick, Lancashire, England
William John Massie - [Child] of John Massie & Jane
Abode: 4 Woods Court Queen St. Ardwick
Occupation: Carter
Baptised by: R. Butler Incumbent
Register: Private Baptisms 1843 - 1892, Page 15, Entry 118
Source: LDS Film 2148087


Dea x

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
3, Back Every Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Massey Head Married Male 40 1811 Carter Of Iron Cheshire, England
Jane Massey Wife Married Female 34 1817 - Ireland
Richard Massey Son - Male 12 1839 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth J Massey Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
William J Massey Son - Male 3 1848 - Openshaw, Lancashire, England

William in 1871?

Name:William J Massey
Age:23
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1848
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Rachel Massey
Where born:Openshaw, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Gorton
Ecclesiastical parish:St Mark
Registration district:Chorlton
Sub-registration district:Ardwick

William J Massey 23
Rachel Massey 22
Richard Massey 2

John & Jane in 1841:

Name:John Massey
Age:25
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1816
Gender:Male
Civil Parish:Manchester
Hundred:Salford
County/Island:Lancashire
Registration district:
Chorlton

Sub-registration district:
Ardwick


John Massey 25 not b Lancashire, 1851 Lynn (Lyme?), Cheshire
Jane Massey 20 - b Ireland
Richard Massey 2
Deborah Massey 7 Mo

Gins, Dea, Greyghost and Potty, thank you all so much, i now have more information on the Massey family than i have ever Had. My grans maiden name was Jane Hutchinson and it was her mother who was Mary Massey. Interesting to know that she had no middle initial, in the book she is called Mary Elizabeth. I will be able to fill in more on my family history with your wonderful research, much gratitude.

Name:Jane Hatchinson

Birth Year:abt 1872

Age:21

Marriage Date:28 Jun 1893

Parish:Salford, Christ Church

Parish as it Appears:Christ Church

Father's name:Richard Hatchinson

Spouse's Name:William Roylance Grundy (dies in 1895)

Spouse's Father's Name:Richard Grundy

Reference Number:GB127.L189/1/2/5
___________________________________________
Jane re-marries

Name:Jane Grundy[Jane Hutchinson]

Gender:Female

Age:24

Birth Date:1872

Marriage Date:24 Nov 1896

Marriage Place:Salford, Lancashire, England

Father: Richard Hutchinson

Spouse:James Leather

FHL Film Number:1786424

Reference ID:vol 3 p 204 cn 407

You are very welcome Alan.

Have to collect the grandchildren from school soon but I will look back later this evening.

My own grandmother Sarah Massey was born in the same area and lived in Salford where I was brought up so I would be interested to see if they are linked in any way.

Dea x

Thank you Dea, i too was born and brought up in Salford, we now live in Somerset, it would be wonderful if there is a link. Alan x

Have been working on it all day but I can't connect it up !!

There does seem to be a connection though - but only so far to the Lomas Street address. ('your' Mary had that address at baptism and 'my' John + Elizabeth also connect to 12 Lomas St).

I am now trying to work back from 'my' John Massey born c 1834 who married Elizabeth Siddall born c 1840.

There may be no 'actual' connection but I will see if I can find any link.

Dea Xxx

Dea, i am now confused, you write of a John Massey born c 1834 who married Elizabeth Siddall born c1840 in 1862. I have no trace of this John Massey in my Family Tree, the only John massey i have is the one born c1811 or c1816 who married Jane Goslin and who were the parents of Mary Massey, can you clear this up ? Thanks Dea xx

Sorry to have confused you Alan.

I have edited the above post to take out the irrelevant details and will work on this seperately to find out if there is a link.

It is best to keep the 2 Johns well away from each other for the time being to avoid further confusion.

Will let you know if I find anything.

Dea Xxx

John Massey
mentioned in the record of John Massey and Jane Goslin
Name: John Massey
Spouse's Name: Jane Goslin
Event Date: 15 Jul 1837
Event Place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England

John Massey
mentioned in the record of Mary Jane Massey
Name: John Massey
Gender:
Male
Wife: Jane
Daughter: Mary Jane Massey
Other information in the record of Mary Jane Massey
from England Births and Christenings
Name: Mary Jane Massey
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 29 Feb 1852
Christening Place: SAINT JOHN,PRESTON,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Massey
Mother's Name: Jane

wonder if she died after giving birth to a little girl?

MARY
Last name HUTCHINSON
Gender Female
Birth year 1852
Age 39
Death quarter 4
Death year 1891
District SALFORD
County Lancashire
Volume 8D
Page 16
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007

First name(s) MARY ANN
Last name HUTCHINSON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1891
Age 0
Death quarter 3
Death year 1891
District SALFORD
County Lancashire
Volume 8D
Page 11
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials

Hi Jansmith, thank you for your help. Do not think this can be my Mary Hutchinson as she was born in 1851 and died in 1894. I have no record of a child called Mary Ann, as far as i know the last child to be born was Ada in 1889 and is the subject of the little book written by her daughter Elsie titled : For the Love of Ada..... And Salford. Regards.

Hi Yvonne, do not think this is my family, we have no connection with the Preston area and at roughly this Period my Gt Grandmother Mary Massey was Born. She was born on 25th July 1851 and Christened on 26th November 1851 in Manchester. Thank you anyway for your help.

Good morning Alan,

You have really got me thinking back to my days in Salford - I have just ordered a copy of that 'little book'.

I expect it will bring back a lot of memories of the place. ;-)

Dea x