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30 May 2015 19:26 |
Trying to find info on Kitchener, Served with 23rd P Fusiliers at Kandalar Barracks Tidmouth in October 1915. He was also in Gold Coast in Africa approx. 1914/1916
Sorry about lack of any other info. Very grateful if any information is found. Thank you
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Andrew
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30 May 2015 19:37 |
Looks like he his Arthur James
Name: Arthur James Kitchener Military Year:1914-1920 Rank:Private Medal Awarded:British War Medal and Victory Medal Regiment or Corps:Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) Regimental Number:SPTS/4003 Previous Units:23 R Fus Pte SPTS/4003
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30 May 2015 19:38 |
Possible birts?
Births Mar 1883 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KITCHENER Arthur James Hertford 3a 477
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kitchener Arthur James Petworth 2b 319
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alviegal
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30 May 2015 19:39 |
Is this him perhaps?
Medal Index Cards Transcription
Learn more Print transcription Attach to tree First name(s) Arthur James Last name Kitchener Service number SPTS/4003 Rank Private, Second Lieutenant, Lieutenant Corps Royal Fusiliers, Royal Engineers Service record Soldier Number: SPTS/4003, Rank: Private, Corps: Royal Fusiliers Service record 2 Rank: Second Lieutenant, Corps: Royal Engineers Service record 3 Rank: Lieutenant, Corps: Royal Engineers Archive reference WO372/11 Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards Country Great Britain
Name: Arthur James Kitchiner Military Year: 1914-1915 Rank: Private Medal Awarded: 1914-15 Star Regiment or Corps: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) Regimental Number: E/166 Previous Units: 17th R. Fus. Medal Forfeited: Yes
Name: Arthur James Kitchiner Military Year: 1914-1920 Rank: Private Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal Regiment or Corps: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) Regimental Number: E/166 Previous Units: 17 R Fus Pte E/166
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30 May 2015 19:53 |
These are the records that may match him. Do you know when he died?
Name: Arthur James Kitchiner Birth Date: 9 May 1895 Date of Registration: Mar 1971 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Merton Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5d Page: 1123
Name: Arthur James Kitchiner Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 3 Jun 1894 Father's name: Alfred Kitchiner, fishmonger of 7 Essian? St Mother's name: Elizabeth Maud Kitchiner Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
Is there nothing else you can tell us about him? Is he an ancestor of yours?
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30 May 2015 20:00 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Essian Street, Mile End Old Town, London, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Alfred Kitchener Head Married Male 30 1861 Journeyman Fish Monger Bermondsey, Surrey, England Transcription Elizabeth Kitchener Wife Married Female 27 1864 - Stepney, Middlesex, England Transcription Alfred Kitchener Son - Male 4 1887 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Lillian Kitchener Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Stepney, Middlesex, England Transcription Louisa Kitchener Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Stepney, Middlesex, England Transcription Edgar Busby Brother - Male 13 1878 Errand Boy Stepney, Middlesex, England Transcription Arthur Busby Brother Single Male 18 1873 - Stepney, Middlesex, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 237, Queens Road, West Ham, Essex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Alfred Kitchiner Head Married Male 40 1861 Dock Labourer Bermondsey, Surrey, England Transcription Elizabeth Kitchiner Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Stepney, Middlesex, England Transcription >>Alfred G Kitchiner Son - Male 14 1887 Post Office Messanger Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Transcription Lilian M Kitchiner Daughter - Female 12 1889 - Stepney, Middlesex, England Transcription Louisa C Kitchiner Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Stepney, Middlesex, England Transcription Arthur J Kitchiner Son - Male 6 1895 - Stepney, Middlesex, England Transcription Charles Kitchiner Son - Male 4 1897 - Stepney, Middlesex, England
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 219 Whitehorse Lane South Norwood, Croydon, Surrey, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Alfred Kitchener Head Married Male 50 1861 London Bermondsey Greengrocer Transcription Elisabeth Kitchener Wife Married Female 47 1864 London Stepney Greengrocer Transcription Alfred Kitchener Son Single Male 24 1887 London Shoreditch Liftman Transcription Louisa Kitchener Daughter Single Female 20 1891 London Stepney Greengrocer Transcription >>Arthur Kitchener Son Single Male 16 1895 London Stepney Clerk Transcription Charles Kitchener Son - Male 14 1897 London Stepney Greengrocer
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30 May 2015 20:11 |
From a tree on Ancestry
Arthur J Kitchener Betts Family Tree_2013-07-03 Birth: 9 May 1894 - London, England Marriage: October 1914 (Oct 1914) - Croydon, Surrey Death: Mar 1971 - London, England Parents: Alfred Kitchiner, Elizabeth Maud Busby Spouse: Miriam M Chinnyah
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30 May 2015 20:18 |
Mr A J Kitchener Gender: Male Departure Date: 22 Oct 1919 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: Seccondee, Ghana Ship Name: Appam Search Ship Database: Search for the Appam in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: British and African Steam Navigation Company, Limited Official Number: 135112 Master: J C Harny
Mrs A J Kitchener Gender: Female Age: 29 Birth Date: abt 1892 Departure Date: 15 Jun 1921 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: Seccondee, Ghana Ship Name: Abinsi Search Ship Database: Search for the Abinsi in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: African Steamship Co Official Number: 137388 Master: J B Wright
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30 May 2015 20:30 |
Mrs A J Kitchiner Gender: Female Age: 31 Birth Date: abt 1891 Departure Date: 15 Nov 1922 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: Seccondee, Ghana Ship Name: Abinsi Search Ship Database: Search for the Abinsi in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: African Steamship Co Official Number: 137388 Master: J B Wright
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30 May 2015 20:34 |
That AJ Kitchener died at sea, I think.
Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) Arthur James Last name Kitchener Gender Male Birth year - Birth place Bennington,English Death year 1929 Death date 19 Apr 1929 Reported date May 1929 Vessel name Abinsi Departure port - County AT SEA Series BT 334 Box 0087 Page 20
Which would be this man?
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription The Green Bennington Stevenage, Bennington, Hertfordshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation John Kitchener Head Married Male 63 1848 Herts Bennington Builder Transcription Sarah Kitchener Wife Married Female 56 1855 Herts Bennington - Transcription >>Arthur Kitchener Son Single Male 28 1883 Herts Bennington Carpenter Transcription Jessie Kitchener Daughter Single Female 19 1892 Herts Bennington Elementary School Teacher
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bennington, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John T Kitchener Head Married Male 53 1848 Builder Hertfordshire, England Transcription Sarah E Kitchener Wife - Female 46 1855 - Hertfordshire, England Transcription >>Arthur J Kitchener Son Single Male 18 1883 Carpenter Hertfordshire, England Transcription Jessie M Kitchener Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Hertfordshire, England
EDIT The brother mentioned in his probate.
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription The Rectory Gates, Bennington, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Thomas Thitchener Head Married Male 42 1849 Builder Hertfordshire, England Transcription Sarah Elen Thitchener Wife Married Female 36 1855 - Hertfordshire, England Transcription >>Frederic John Thitchener Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Hertfordshire, England Transcription >>Arthur James Thitchener Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Hertfordshire, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Village Street, Little Berkhampstead, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Frederick J Kitchener Head Single Male 22 1879 Organist & Professor Of Music Hertfordshire, England Transcription Francis Sturmey Servant Widow Female 77 1824 House Keeper Domestic Marlborough, Wiltshire, England
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Jacqueline
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30 May 2015 23:45 |
You must have a reason for asking...............how are you connected?
Where did you get the info about his WW1 service?
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Jacqueline
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30 May 2015 23:53 |
If he was in the UK in 1915, it's unlikely that he was in the Gold Coast 1914 to 1916
The location of his UK posting would actually have been TIDWORTH
Lucknow Barracks and Mooltan Barracks were completed in 1905, Tidworth Military Hospital was finished in 1907 and a Royal Ordnance depot was established during the First World War.[1] Aliwal Barracks, Assaye Barracks, Bhurtpore Barracks, Candahar Barracks, Delhi Barracks and Jellalabad Barracks were added later.[3] The names of the barracks evoke memories of battles in India and Afghanistan (e.g. Aliwal, Assaye, Bhurtpore, Candahar, Delhi, Jellalabad, Lucknow and Mooltan).
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Joan
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31 May 2015 06:18 |
Sorry for delay in replying, server problems. Many thanks for all your assistance.
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31 May 2015 10:57 |
Name:Arthur James Kitchener of: Coomassie, Gold Coast
Probate Date:5 Jun 1929
Death Date:19 Apr 1929
Death Place West Africa (at sea)
Registry:London, England
Probate to: Dorothy Maud (widow) & Frederick John Kitchener (musician) £97 19s 3d
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Jacqueline
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31 May 2015 11:34 |
Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%)
Kitchener Arthur J Thompson Kensington 1a 292 Thompson Dorothy M Kitchener Kensington 1a 292
Births Sep 1917 (>99%) Kitchener George F Thompson Southwark 1d 99
Births Dec 1919 (>99%) Kitchener Frederick G Thompson Southwark 1d 148
Looks like the joint executor may have been a brother
I would have thought Joan might have tried to answer the questions asked of her............
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Jacqueline
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31 May 2015 11:38 |
First name(s) Dorothy Maud Last name Kitchener Sex Female Marital status Widowed Age 40 Birth year 1892 Marriage year 1932 Marriage date 11 Feb 1932 Marriage place West Parley, West Parley, Dorset, England Father's first name(s) Sydney Father's last name Thompson Spouse's first name(s) Alexander Spouse's last name Profeit Spouse's sex Male Spouse's marital status Widowed Spouse's age 59 Spouse's birth year 1873 Spouse's father's first name(s) Alexander Spouse's father's last name Profeit Place West Parley County Dorset Country England Record set Dorset marriage index 1541-1937
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31 May 2015 13:06 |
Info from copies of two letters sent by Kitchener . The first to Stephen Henry Goodchild from barracks thanking him for a parcel The second condolences on hearing of Stephen Goodchilds death He died of Blackwater fever and is buried in Accra. Have copy of faded photo shooting party on banks of O'missa river Oct 1914 Goodchild Bland Goldsworthy Fitzhenry Kitchener. JOAN
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31 May 2015 19:46 |
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) A J Last name KITCHENER Title MR Gender Male Occupation COL GOVT SERVICE Departure year 1919 Departure day 22 Departure month 10 Departure port LIVERPOOL Destination port SEKONDI-TAKORADI Destination SEKONDI-TAKORADI Country GHANA (GOLD COAST) Destination country GHANA (GOLD COAST) Ship name APPAM Ship official number 135442 Ship master's first name J C Ship master's last name HARRY
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1 Jun 2015 15:55 |
So there's no relationship connecting you to this man?
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Joan
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2 Jun 2015 19:30 |
No Joan
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