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17 May 2015 23:41 |
Back to Pascal senior: There is an image of both sides of the coin at the site below.
http://www.coinworld.com/news/convict-_transportation-tokens-are-affordable-highlights-in-dix-.html
" The most moving of these messages was stipple-engraved on a 1797 George III penny by Pascal Baillieu, who, ironically, had been convicted of forging counterfeit coins and being in possession of impressions and moulds for coining.
He was sentenced to seven years transportation at Bristol Quarter Sessions on Oct. 9, 1837. Pascal had been born in Bristol in 1804 and was evidently very fond of his sister Ann, who was two-and-a-half years younger. Before he sailed for New South Wales on the Lord Lyndoch in April 1838 he engraved: ‘Sister Ann when this you see think on me. Pascal Baillieu.’
Unlike many convicts who were transported for life or who chose to stay in Australia when their sentences ended, Pascal returned to England after receiving his Certificate of Freedom in December 1844. So perhaps and he and Ann were reunited. His transportation token, which is in fair to fine condition, is expected to fetch £150 to £200 at the Dix Noonan Webb auction."
Sister Ann's baptism:
First name(s) Ann Last name Baillieu Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1807 Baptism date 12 Jan 1807 Place Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Father's first name(s) Lambert<<<<< Father's last name Baillieu<<<< Mother's first name(s) Ann<<<<< Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Sister Elizabeth got baptised same day as Ann:
Name: Elizabeth Baillieu Gender: Female Baptism Date: 12 Jan 1807 Baptism Place: St Augustine-the-Less, Bristol, Gloucester, England Father: Lambert Baillieu Mother: Ann FHL Film Number: 1596311
Brother:
England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
First name(s) Lambert Francis Last name Baillie Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1802 Baptism date 24 Jul 1802 Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England Place Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Father's first name(s) Lambert<<< Father's last name Baillie Mother's first name(s) Ann<<< Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
I think this may be a child of the possible second marriage to Sarah Hawkesley in 1812.. The Image says born 25 May 1815 , so unlikely to be a son of Lambert Francis baptised 1802. Father is a dancing master.
Name: Joseph Frederick Hawksley Baillieu Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 30 May 1830 Father's name: Lambert Francis Baillieu Mother's name: Sarah Baillieu Parish or Poor Law Union: Haggerston St Mary Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers
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17 May 2015 21:44 |
You probably know this already, but on the image of the baptism that Maddie posted for Alice Isabella Akerman, her birth date is recorded as 19th Sep/98
Address as 21 Little Goudge St . Father a labourer.
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17 May 2015 21:24 |
Amanda got baptised rather late in life, as Baillieu, in the same church that she married at in 1880 :
Name: Amanda Baillieu Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 5 Apr 1895 Father's name: Pascal Baillieu Mother's name: Eliza Baillieu Parish or Poor Law Union: Acton St Mary Borough: Ealing Register Type: Parish Registers
Image has born March 29th 1858. Address 31 Petersfield Road South Acton.
I assume it's father occupation : Decorator.
NB: seems likely she was a year out with birthdate
Births Jun 1857 Baillieu Amanda Malvina Newport M 11a 168
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17 May 2015 21:17 |
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Pascal senior?
UK, Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849
Name: Paschel Baillieu [Pascel Baillieu] Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805 Date Received: 7 Dec 1837 Ship: Justitia Place Moored: Woolwich Date Convicted: 9 Oct 1837 Place Convicted: Bristol
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 Name: Pascal Baillieu Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805 Date of Trial: 9 Oct 1837 Trial Year: 1837 Location of Trial: Gloucestershire, England Crime: Having impressions and moulds for coining Sentence: 7 years Transportation
New South Wales, Australia, Certificates of Freedom, 1827-1867 Name: Paschel Baillieu Birth Year: 1806 Native Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Certificate Date: 21 Dec 1844 Arrival Year: 1838 Vessel: Lord Lyndoch
Wife Elizabeth may have died:
Name:Elizabeth Baillieu Event Type:Burial Event Date:03 Aug 1832 Event Place:Bristol, St Thomas, Gloucestershire, England Age:27 Birth Year (Estimated):1805 Digital Folder Number: 004247230 , Image Number: 00079
They had another child baptised same time as the 11 yr old Pascal:
Name:Elizabeth Baillieu Gender:Female Christening Date:28 Sep 1834 Christening Place: St. Philip and St. Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester, England Father's Name:Pascal Baillieu Mother's Name:Elizabeth Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01979-6 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1596679
She was also not an infant when she was baptised:
First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Baillieu Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1834 Baptism date 28 Sep 1834 Baptism age 9Y 5M<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England Place Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Father's first name(s) Pascal<<<<<<<<<< Father's last name Baillieu<<<<<<<<< Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth<<<<<<<< Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
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17 May 2015 21:12 |
possible second marriage:
England Marriages 1538-1973
First name(s) Lambert Last name Baillieu Name note - Marriage year 1812 Marriage date 26 Nov 1812 Marriage place Saint Augustine The Less, Bristol, Gloucester, England Father's first name(s) - Father's last name - Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Spouse's first name(s) Sarah Spouse's last name Hawksley Spouse's father's first name(s) - Spouse's father's last name - Spouse's mother's first name(s) - Spouse's mother's last name - Place Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
First name(s) Lambert Last name Baillieu Gender Male Marital status - Occupation - Event year 1816 Birth year 1772 Age at death 44y Death place Bristol, Glouster, England Burial year 1816 Burial date 08 Nov 1816 Burial place St. Augustine The Less, Bristol, Glouster, England Place Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Record set England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991
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17 May 2015 21:06 |
Given Amanda had a brother named Lamber Baillieu in census 1871, I wondered if this was the baptism of Pascal senior, but depending on how old he was at baptism it might mean he was only 18 or so when he married:
First name(s) Pascal Last name Bailieu Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1804 Baptism date 19 Jul 1804 Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England Place Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Father's first name(s) Lambert<<<<<< Father's last name Bailieu Mother's first name(s) Ann Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms
Name: Ann Taylor<<<<< Gender: Female Spouse's Name: Lambert Baillieu<<<< Marriage Date: 13 Sep 1801 Marriage Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Lambert Last name Baillieu Name note - Marriage year 1801 Marriage date 1801 Marriage place Saint Augustine The Less, Bristol, Gloucester, England Father's first name(s) - Father's last name - Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Taylor Spouse's father's first name(s) - Spouse's father's last name - Spouse's mother's first name(s) - Spouse's mother's last name -
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17 May 2015 21:02 |
Marriage of Pascal senior?
First name(s) Pascal<<<<<<<<< Last name Baillieu<<<<<<<<<< Name note - Marriage year 1822 Marriage date 21 Nov 1822 Marriage place St. James Parish, Bristol, Gloucester, England Father's first name(s) - Father's last name - Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse's last name Stadden<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse's father's first name(s) - Spouse's father's last name - Spouse's mother's first name(s) - Spouse's mother's last name - Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England Place Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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17 May 2015 20:53 |
Marriage of Pascal Jr, note his father's name is Pascal:
Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976
Name: Pascal Baillieu Father's name: Pascal Baillieu Spouse's Name: Eliza Vick Marriage Date: 24 Nov 1856 Marriage Place: Newport, Wales
Image says Baillieu Pascal , aet 25 bach Carriage plater and fitter (journeyman) of Thomas Street Newport son of Pascal Baillieu a dancing master . Married 24 .11.1856 at R. O. Newport to Eliza Vick aet 28 also of Thomas Street Newport dau of James Vick deceased mechanic nail works. Witnesses William Knox Henry Squire.
EDIT: aet. "aged," abbreviation of Latin aetatis "of the age of,"
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Death of Eliza:
London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
Name: Eliza Baillieu Record Type: Burial Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Death Date: abt 1891 Burial Date: 31 Dec 1891 Burial Place: St Mary, Acton, England Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary, Acton Borough: Ealing Register Type: Parish Register
Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976
Name: Eliza Baillieu Spouse's Name: Pascal Baillieu Death Date: 23 Dec 1891 Death Place: Acton Green
Image says Baillieu Eliza, wo of Pascal Baillieu a house painter journeyman died 23.12.1891 at Saville Road Acton Green (Acton So)
aet 63
Informant son C Baillieu in attendance of the Steyne [?]} Acton
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17 May 2015 20:50 |
Is this Pascal's baptism?
He was aged 11 yrs when he was baptised:
First name(s) Pascal Last name Baillieu Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1834 Baptism date 28 Sep 1834 Baptism age 11Y 3M Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England Place Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Father's first name(s) Pascal Father's last name Baillieu Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Baptism was at 'Pip n Jay'
Name: Pascal Baillieu Gender: Male Baptism Date: 28 Sep 1834 Baptism Place: St. Philip and St. Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester, England Father: Pascal Baillieu Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number: 1596679
slightly out with age at death, but not unreasonably so:
Name: Pascal Baillieu Record Type: Burial Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Death Date: abt 1880 Burial Date: 20 Oct 1880 Burial Place: St Mary, Acton, England Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary, Acton Borough: Ealing Register Type: Parish Register
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17 May 2015 20:34 |
Looks like Amanda almost got married in 1875....
Name: Spenser Summers Rush Spouse: Amanda Malvina Baillieu<<<<< Record Type: Banns Event Date: 26 Sep 1875 Parish: Christ Church, St Marylebone Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Register
Bachelor & Spinster, Banns Sept 12th, Sept 19th, Sept 26th.
Who was the one that got cold feet...?
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17 May 2015 20:21 |
WILLIAM A BAYLISS England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Collections from Great Britain Country England County Middlesex Year 1966 Birth Year 1893 Age 73 Event Quarter 3 District BARNET
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17 May 2015 20:12 |
ALICE ISABELLA BAYLISS England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Collections from Great Britain Country England County Middlesex Year 1976 Birth Year 1899 Event Quarter 2 District BARNET
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 May 2015 20:09 |
No I'm not finding her death either .maybe the spelling is different
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17 May 2015 19:36 |
Births Dec 1898 (>99%) Akearman Alice Isabella Pancras 1b 29
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17 May 2015 19:32 |
Thanks. I had thought that the death of Amanda would would have been the easiest to find not happening for me
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 May 2015 19:26 |
First name(s) ALICE I Last name AKERMAN Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1923 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ ALICE I AKERMAN married WILLIAM A BAYLISS Spouse's last name BAYLISS District BARNET District number - County Middlesex Country England Volume 3A Page 631 Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
First name(s) CHRISTOPHER L Last name AKERMAN Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1925 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ CHRISTOPHER L AKERMAN married VIOLET N BLOTT Spouse's last name BLOTT District BARNET District number - County Middlesex Country England Volume 3A Page 1075
First name(s) JOSEPH Last name AKERMAN Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1921 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ JOSEPH AKERMAN married ELSIE M TAYLOR Spouse's last name TAYLOR District BARNET District number - County Middlesex Country England Volume 3A Page 775
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17 May 2015 19:13 |
marriage for alice
Marriages Mar 1923 (>99%) Akerman Alice I Bayliss Barnet 3a 631
can find no births for alice
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17 May 2015 19:07 |
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Name: William Akerman Birth Date: abt 1851 Date of Registration: Dec 1939 Age at Death: 88 Registration district: Ware Inferred County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 1411
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17 May 2015 19:06 |
Amanda Baillieu England and Wales Census, 1871 Name: Amanda Baillieu Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Female Age: 14 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birthplace: Newport, Monmouthshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Brentford Sub-District: Brentford Parish: Ealing County: Middlesex Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Pascal Baillieu Self M 45 Bristol, Somerset Eliza Baillieu Wife F 42 Stroudwater, Gloucestershire Amanda Baillieu Daughter F 14 Newport, Monmouthshire Oskar Baillieu Son M 12 Newport, Monmouthshire Lorie Baillieu Daughter F 5 Greenford, Middlesex Lavenia Baillieu Daughter F 3 Greenford, Middlesex Lambert Baillieu Son M 7 Paddington, Middlesex Elina Baillieu Daughter F 0 Ealing, Middlesex
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17 May 2015 19:04 |
no middle name Name: William Ackerman Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 12 Jan 1851 Father's name: Thomas Ackerman Mother's name: Sarah Ackerman Parish or Poor Law Union: Cowley Borough: Hillingdon Register Type: Parish Registers
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