Hello
I was wondering if someone could be able to find a death record for Rees Watkins and his son William Watkins, both of them were born and died in Neath.
Rees was born in 1744, whilst William was born in 1775.
I checked a death of a William Watkins in free bmd in 1842 and he can be discounted as he is the wrong person
my thanks
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If you can't find burial records, how do you know where they died?
What else do you know about the son?
Did he marry? Did he father any legitimate children?
How did you work back to these two?
Have you looked for info at familysearch?
Unless either lived till after July 1837. there won't be death records
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for INFO
Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers Name: William Watkin Event Type: Baptism Event Date: 1775 Event Place: Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Father's Name: Rees Mother's Name: Mary
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Burial records I mean
Rees married Mary Evan in Neath and had several children, one of them was William. I worked back using baptism and marriage records, which date back to the 1730s
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Name: Rees Watkins Death: Jul 1839 - Neath, Glamorganshire
Deaths Sep Qtr 1839 Watkins Rees - Neath 26 286 <<< certificate ref No.
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Sorry when I meant death record, I meant the year he died
The 1839 death could be him, but he would be nearly 95
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Is this your William ?
Name: William Watkins Birth: Abt 1775 - Breconshire, Wales Death: July 1857 (Jul 1857) - Neath Spouse: Anne Morgan
Name: William Watkins
Registration Year: 1857
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Neath Inferred County:Glamorganshire
Volume:11a Page:227
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Can I ask how you have verified you have the right marriage for William.
Someone else has Catherine Reynold married to a different William Watkin
PARISH RECORD Name: William Watkin Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 1792 Event Place: Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Spouse's Name: Catherine Reynold ---------------------------------------
FROM A TREE ON ANCESTRY
WILLIAM WATKIN Birth: 1770 - Glamorgan, Wales Parents: Thomas Watkins, Elizabeth Watkins Spouse: Catherine Reynold
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The one with William having parents of Thomas and Elizabeth is inaccurate as I have been to the archives in Swansea. The index does not give a William Watkin born to Thomas or Elizabeth, only a Rees and mary
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To explain.......
When people ask for info about what are assumed to be ancestors, they are generally supposed to have worked back from themselves to that person, or people
So....how did you get back from yourself to William?
If you are so sure about his wife's identity, one has to assume that one of his children with her is your direct, proven (backed up by documentation), line.
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I am descended from their son William.
William is on the 1851, 1861, 1871 and 1881 census.
It lists his year of birth as 1800, the last census being 1803.
Looking at the baptisms, the only one that matches is William Watkin, baptised in 1818 aged 16.
His parents were William, a labourer and Catherine
The only marriage that fits in the entire index is the one with William and Catherine Reynold
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sorry, in the 1881 census, the last census he was on before he died, his birth year was given as 1803.
I am descended from William's son William, born 1802. He had a son named William, born in 1835. He had a son named William, born 1858, he had a daughter named Rebecca, born in 1899. Rebecca's daughter Elvira is my grandmother.
I don't have a birth certificate for William, just a baptism record for him in 1818
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So working back, are these the right families?
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 53 Prospect Place Neath, Neath (Parish and Town), Glamorganshire, Wales
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation >>William Watkins Head Married Male 53 1858 Glamorgan Neath Collier Hewer Transcription Kate Watkins Wife Married Female 47 1864 Cornwell Hantsby - Transcription Lucy Watkins Daughter - Female 12 1899 Betters Glam School Transcription >>>Rebecca Watkins Daughter - Female 11 1900 Betters Glam School Transcription Emily Watkins Daughter - Female 8 1903 Glamorgan Neath - Transcription Andrew Watkins Son - Male 7 1904 Glamorgan Neath - Transcription Steven Watkins Son - Male 3 1908 Glamorgan Neath - Transcription Richard Watkins Son - Male 2 1909 Glamorgan Neath
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Pontrhydddu Cottages, 6, Lower Llangynwyd, Llangynwyd Lower, Bridgend, Glamorganshire, Wales
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Watkins Head Married Male 43 1858 Coal Miner (Hewer) Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Catherine Watkins Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Cornwall, England Transcription David H Watkins Son Single Male 18 1883 Coal Miner (Hewer) Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription John N Watkins Son Single Male 16 1885 Coal Miner (Filler) Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription William J Watkins Son Single Male 14 1887 Coal Miner (Filler) Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription James Watkins Son - Male 11 1890 - Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Edward Watkins Son - Male 9 1892 - Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Elizabeth A Watkins Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Licy Watkins Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Bettws, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Rebecca Watkins Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Bettws, Glamorgan, Wales
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cribbs Row, Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Watkins Head Married Male 33 1858 Coal Miner Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Kate Watkins Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Cornwall, England Transcription David Watkins Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription John N Watkins Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription William Watkins Son - Male 4 1887 - Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription James Watkins Son - Male 2 1889 - Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4, Cribbs Row, Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place >>William Watkins Head Married Male 46 1835 Coal Miner Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Ann Watkins Wife Married Female 43 1838 Coal Miners Wife Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription >>William Watkins Son Single Male 23 1858 Coal Miner Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription David Watkins Son Single Male 21 1860 Coal Miner Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Lucy Watkins Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Duster In Tin Works Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription James Watkins Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Edward Watkins Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Margaret A Watkins Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Richard Watkins Son Single Male 2 1879 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Harriss Court, Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Watkins Head - Male 36 1835 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Ann Watkins Wife - Female 33 1838 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription William Watkins Son - Male 13 1858 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription David Watkins Son - Male 11 1860 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription Lucy Watkins Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription James Watkins Son - Male 2 1869 - Glamorgan, Wales
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Green Court, Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Watkins Head Married Male 26 1835 Collier - Neath Ann Watkins Wife Married Female 23 1838 Colliers Wife - Transcription William Watkins Son - Male 3 1858 Colliers Son - Transcription David Watkins Son - Male 1 1860 Colliers Son - Transcription Richard Williams Boarder Unmarried Male 24 1837 Plasterer -
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