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26 Mar 2015 23:49 |
On his birth records it says Sir Joseph Whitwam, born in Huddersfield, parents Fred & Hannah Maria, He had bother John, sisters Ida & Amy, he married Emma (nee) Castledine in 1924, he died in 1976 We have never found out how he came to get the title of Sir on his birth, wedding & death certificate. Can any one help with any info please. :-)
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27 Mar 2015 00:11 |
his parents marriage
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
First Name ALFRED Last Name WHITWAM Gender Male Year 1899 Spouse Image Quarter 2 Country England County Yorkshire District HUDDERSFIELD District Number Registry Number Volume 9A Page 549 Line Number 377 Entry Number Category Births, Marriages & Deaths Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Collections from Great Britain
married Hannah maria sutcliffe
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27 Mar 2015 00:14 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Household Information
Address 23 Quebec St Elland Parish Elland County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Ecclesiastical District Enumeration District 8 Registration District Halifax Registration District Number 496 SubDistrict Number 2 Category Census, Land & Surveys Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales Collections from Great Britain
Person 1
First Name Alfred Last Name Whitwam Birth Year 1877 Age 34 Where Born Lindley Near Huddersfield Relationship To Head of Household Head Gender Male Condition Married Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation Lurryman Land Military Info Census Reference RG14PN26407 RG78PN1525 RD496 SD2 ED8 SN194 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 26407
Person 2
First Name Hannah Maria Last Name Whitwam Birth Year 1878 Age 33 Where Born Buckencliffe Near Huddersfield Relationship To Head of Household Wife Gender Female Condition Married Year Of Marriage 1899 Years Of Marriage 12 Occupation Cloth Weaver Military Info Census Reference RG14PN26407 RG78PN1525 RD496 SD2 ED8 SN194 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 26407
Person 3
First Name Harold Last Name Whitwam Birth Year 1903 Age 8 Where Born Yorks Elland Relationship To Head of Household Son Gender Male Condition Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation School Military Info Census Reference RG14PN26407 RG78PN1525 RD496 SD2 ED8 SN194 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 26407
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27 Mar 2015 00:17 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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Street Quebec Street Parish Elland Town City County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Ecclesiastical District Elland St Marys Enumeration District 9 Municipal Ward East Parliamentary Borough Elland Registration District Halifax Category Census, Land & Surveys Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Collections from Great Britain
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First Name Alfred Last Name Whitwam Birth Year 1877 Age 24 Birth Town Lindley Birth County Yorkshire Birth Place England Relationship To Head of Household Head Gender Male Occupation Teamster Woollen Mill Condition Married Archive Reference RG13 Folio 171 Page 8 Piece Number 4127
Person 2
First Name Hannah M Last Name Whitwam Birth Year 1878 Age 23 Birth Town Lindley Birth County Yorkshire Birth Place England Relationship To Head of Household Wife Gender Female Occupation Woollen Weaver Condition Married Archive Reference RG13 Folio 171 Page 8 Piece Number 4127
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27 Mar 2015 03:10 |
might it be like the name Squire ......... which was a very common forename in parts of Lancashire?
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27 Mar 2015 03:28 |
this is the correct 1911 Census ......
...... interesting that there are apparently two families called Whitwam, with husbands called Fred / Alfred, and wives called Hannah Maria :-)
although I am sure that November does have this ................ I'm posting it merely for clarity of the helpers
1911 Census
Name: Sir Joseph Whitman Age in 1911: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902 Relation to Head: Son (Child) Gender: Male Birth Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Longwood County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street address: 2 Upper Hurst Mount Longwood Huddersfield Occupation: School Registration district: Huddersfield Registration District Number: 495 Sub-registration district: Lockwood ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Piece: 26350
Fred Whitman 44 b.ca 1867, Huddersfield, Plasterer Hannah Maria Whitman 36 b.ca 1875, Huddersfield, Weaver (woollen) John Alfred Whitman 18 Ida Whitman 13 Sir Joseph Whitman 9 Amy Whitman 6 John Cromie 61 Elizabeth Ann Cromie 65
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27 Mar 2015 03:36 |
yep ..................
think it was just a regional forename!!!
If you enter "sir" in the first name box of birth registrations and county Yorkshire on ancestry ...............
there are about 22 registrations for males with names beginning with Sir
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
24 results for Sir
Sir?S Auty 1867 Oct-Nov-Dec Wakefield Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Wilfred Chapman 1872 Jul-Aug-Sep Bradford Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Lancelot Crabtree 1851 Jan-Feb-Mar Bradford Yorkshire West Riding
James Sir Dawson 1865 Apr-May-Jun Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
Sir[ua]S Donkin 1882 Jan-Feb-Mar Beverley Yorkshire East Riding
Sir Martin Frobisher 1851 Apr-May-Jun Pontefract Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Edward E Hallford 1905 Jan-Feb-Mar Wakefield Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Vetis Hirst 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Halifax Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Athelst[a?]n P D'N De V Hodgson 1884 Jan-Feb-Mar Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Athelstan P D' N De V Hurst-hodgson 1884 Jan-Feb-Mar Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
Sir?efs John Lawson 1844 Jan-Feb-Mar Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Wilfred Laycock 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Skipton Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Alfred G Ness 1895 Jul-Aug-Sep Scarborough Yorkshire North Riding
Sir Wilfred L Nicholson 1876 Oct-Nov-Dec Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
Sir John Peel 1871 Jul-Aug-Sep Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
George Sir Robinson 1872 Jul-Aug-Sep Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Harry Shaw 1902 Jan-Feb-Mar York Yorkshire East Riding
Sir Norman Shepherd 1908 Jul-Aug-Sep Bramley Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Charles Southwood 1854 Apr-May-Jun Hunslet Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Charles Southwood 1854 Apr-May-Jun Hunslet Yorkshire West Riding
Sir William Spencer 1877 Apr-May-Jun Richmond Yorkshire North Riding
Christopher Sir Steward 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
Sir Robert Warwick 1894 Oct-Nov-Dec Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
Sir Joseph Whitwam 1901 Oct-Nov-Dec Huddersfield Yorkshire West Riding
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27 Mar 2015 03:39 |
by Googling, I found the following ......
http://www.babynamespedia.com/search/m/sir
NAME MATCH:
Sir sire ...The baby boy name Sir is pronounced SER †... Sir is of English origin ...
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27 Mar 2015 09:28 |
In this instance, it's a forename, not a title
A friend has a boy named Doctor in her tree..........again , surprisingly, not uncommon
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Cynthia
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27 Mar 2015 11:27 |
Welcome to the Community boards November.
(I'll let November know how to find their replies) :-)
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27 Mar 2015 21:11 |
google Steve Whitwams family history site, very interesting
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27 Mar 2015 21:14 |
Thank you for all replies to my post, I'm just studying them more tomorrow :-)
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27 Mar 2015 21:14 |
Thank you for all replies to my post, I'm just studying them more tomorrow :-)
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28 Mar 2015 12:54 |
I have looked on Steve Whitwams site before, his is not the same family of Whitwams. If any one can help further into Sir Joseph Whitwams mothers or fathers side. There was a piece in a Huddersfield news paper in 1960s along with a photo of my aunt & uncle when o was at school, they lived in Longwood for all of their lives, so fare l've not managed to trace it. I would be greatful of any help thankyou :-)
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28 Mar 2015 13:09 |
What were the names of your aunt and uncle and what was the article about?
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28 Mar 2015 20:35 |
Marriage O.N.D 1892 9a 648 Hannah Maria Cromien no male given Birth of 1st child John Alfred Whitwam 27/2/1893 baptised 1893 by Fred and Hannah Maria a weaver born 1875 of Mount Longwood.
1891 Mount Foot Longwood D13 . 25 John Cranien born Dublin night watchman Elizabeth A nee Pogson born Huddersfield Hannah Maria daughter born Huddersfield
1881 name John Crimey
John and Elizabeth are on 1911 census with Fred and Hannah Maria as boarders named Cromie.
John Cromien of 2,Upper Hurst died 1/4/1924 probate to among others is Hannah Maria Whitwam wife of fred.
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29 Mar 2015 00:03 |
I have looked on Steve Whitwams site before, his is not the same family of Whitwams. If any one can help further into his mothers side or fathers side. There was a piece in a Huddersfield news paper 1960s along with a photo of my aunt & uncle when o was at school, they lived in Longwood for all of their lives, so fare l've not managed to trace it. I would be greatful of any help thankyou :) :-)
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29 Mar 2015 00:10 |
Hi Dea, my aunties & uncles name Sir Joseph & Emma Whitwam think it could have been an anniversary or something l was at school so l can't remember, only seeing the cutting & photo of them.
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29 Mar 2015 00:21 |
Fred and Hannah Maria in 1901, with John Alfred and Ida
1901 Census
Name: Fred Whitwam Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Hannah Maria Whitwam Birth Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Longwood Ecclesiastical parish: Longwood St Mark County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Huddersfield Sub-registration district: Lockwood ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Piece: 4111 Folio: 137 Page Number: 10 Household schedule number: 68
Fred Whitwam 36 Plasterer & Painter Hannah Maria Whitwam 26 b.ca 1875, Huddersfield, Serge Woollen Weaver John Alfred Whitwam 8 b.ca 1893, Huddersfield Ida Whitwam 3 b.ca 1898, Huddersfield
Address:- 2 Mount
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29 Mar 2015 00:30 |
Ida's baptism
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Ida Whitwam Birth Date: 18 Jan 1898 Parish: Longwood, St Mark Baptism Date: 31 Mar 1898 Father's name: Fred Whitwam Mother's name: Hannah Maria Whitwam
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