Profile | Posted by | Options | Post Date |
|
Mark
|
Report
|
24 Mar 2015 15:03 |
I cannot for the life of me work out the parentage of William Houghton 1808 Scarisbrick I have looked on the IGI and Ancestry. His wife Frances Newton I believe may of married before so her maiden name would not be Newton she was 31 when she married William in1828 in Ormskirk .
|
|
Jacqueline
|
Report
|
24 Mar 2015 15:32 |
Banns: St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England William Houghton - Wheelwright, Scarisbrick Frances Newton - Spinster, Ormskirk Banns Read: 3 Feb 1828 Register: Banns 1826 - 1834, Page 13, Entry 2 Source: LDS Film 1849664#
Why don't you use LancsOPC?
|
|
Jacqueline
|
Report
|
24 Mar 2015 15:33 |
????????
First name(s) William Last name Houghton Gender Male Birth year 1808 Birth place Liverpool, Lancashire, England Baptism year - Residence Liverpool, Lancashire, England Place - County Lancashire Country England Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Houghton Mother's first name(s) Sarah Mother's last name Castlehouse
|
|
Jacqueline
|
Report
|
24 Mar 2015 15:37 |
1841 suggests that they were both born somewhat earlier than they say in 1851
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription High Blowick, Meols, North, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place William Houghton Male 40 1801 Lancashire, England Transcription Frances Houghton Female 44 1797 Lancashire, England Transcription Samuel Houghton Male 13 1828 Lancashire, England Transcription Jane Houghton Female 8 1833 Lancashire, England Transcription Nancy Houghton Female 3 1838 Lancashire, England Transcription John Houghton Male 0 1841 Lancashire, England Transcription
|
|
Jacqueline
|
Report
|
24 Mar 2015 15:38 |
Baptism: 18 Apr 1830 St Cuthbert, Halsall, Lancashire, England John Houghton - Son of William Houghton & Frances Abode: Liverpool Occupation: Wheelwright Baptised by: Richd.Appleton Curate Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1837, Page 117, Entry 929 Source: LDS Film 1849658
|
|
malyon
|
Report
|
24 Mar 2015 16:11 |
hi this is where he was christened
William Houghton England Births and Christenings Name: William Houghton Gender: Male Christening Date: 19 Feb 1809 Christening Place: ST NICHOLAS,LIVERPOOL,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND Birth Date: 29 Dec 1808 Father's Name: John Houghton Mother's Name: Sarah Castlehouse
|
|
AnnCardiff
|
Report
|
24 Mar 2015 16:57 |
Name: Thomas Haughton Gender: Male Christening Date: 16 Dec 1810 Christening Place: St Peters, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father's Name: John Haughton Mother's Name: Sarah Castlehouse
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04835-7 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 93873 , Reference ID: yr 1810 rn 1810
|
|
AnnCardiff
|
Report
|
24 Mar 2015 16:57 |
Name: Mary Houghton Gender: Female Christening Date: 23 May 1802 Christening Place: ST NICHOLAS,LIVERPOOL,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND Birth Date: 16 Apr 1802 Father's Name: John Houghton Mother's Name: Sarah Castlehouse
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00599-7 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 93833
|
|
AnnCardiff
|
Report
|
24 Mar 2015 16:58 |
Name: John Houghton Gender: Male Christening Date: 17 Feb 1805 Christening Place: St. Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father's Name: John Houghton Mother's Name: Sarah Castlehouse
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04684-6 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1068889
|
|
AnnCardiff
|
Report
|
24 Mar 2015 16:58 |
Name: William Houghton Gender: Male Birth Date: 29 Dec 1808 Birthplace: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father's Name: John Houghton Mother's Name: Sarah Castlehouse
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04685-2 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1068889
|
|
Mark
|
Report
|
27 Mar 2015 14:48 |
Marjory Castlehouse married John Pearson sometime and had a daughter Ann Pearson 1805 Ormskirk. Cannot find any other children or a marriage for Marjory Castlehouse to John Pearson
Thanks
|
|
Jacqueline
|
Report
|
27 Mar 2015 16:34 |
For source info
Baptism: 1 Jan 1806 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Ann Pearson - Daughter of John Pearson & Margery (formerly Castlehouse), His Wife Born: 9 Dec 1805 Abode: Westmorland St. Occupation: Brass Founder Register: Baptisms 1806, Page 1, Entry 18 Source: LDS Film 1068889
|
|
Jacqueline
|
Report
|
27 Mar 2015 16:36 |
Any chance of feedback on the info provided above in response to your first request on here?
|
|
Jacqueline
|
Report
|
27 Mar 2015 16:38 |
Did you miss this?
Baptism: 25 Mar 1807 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Catharine Pearson - Daughter of John Pearson & Margery (formerly Castlett), His Wife Born: 14 Feb 1807 Abode: Kay Street Occupation: Brass Founder Register: Baptisms 1807, Page 312, Entry 379 Source: LDS Film 93833
|
|
Jacqueline
|
Report
|
27 Mar 2015 16:40 |
I presume you have this?
Baptism: 26 Jan 1777 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England Marjery Castlehouse - Daughter of Robert Castlehouse & Betty Abode: Orms[kirk] Register: Baptisms 1771 - 1794, Page 26, Entry 20 Source: LDS Film 1849663
|
|
Mark
|
Report
|
28 Mar 2015 13:48 |
Thank you I didn't have any details of the child Catherine in 1807 but I did have the baptism for her mother. Much appreciated. Thanks
|
|
malyon
|
Report
|
28 Mar 2015 18:07 |
hi this could be john houghton born 1830
John Houghton England, Lancashire, Parish Registers 1538-1910 Name: John Houghton Event Type: Burial Event Date: 25 Aug 1831 Event Place: Halsall, Halsall, Lancashire, England Age: 1 Birth Year (Estimated): 1830
John Houghton England Births and Christenings Name: John Houghton Gender: Male Christening Date: 1830 Christening Place: HALSALL, BTS, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND Father's Name: William Houghton Mother's Name: Frances Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13574-9 ,
then they named their son john born in 1841 after the son they lost
|
|
malyon
|
Report
|
28 Mar 2015 18:23 |
found this child she is not on the 1841 census could be staying with someone else
Mary Houghton England Births and Christenings Name: Mary Houghton Gender: Female Christening Date: 25 Oct 1835 Christening Place: Halsall, Lancashire, England Father's Name: William Houghton Mother's Name: Francis
|
|
malyon
|
Report
|
28 Mar 2015 18:25 |
this could be her death could be a mistake in the date
ary Houghton England, Lancashire, Parish Registers 1538-1910 Name: Mary Houghton Event Type: Burial Event Date: 16 Aug 1835 Event Place: Halsall, Halsall, Lancashire, England Age: 0
|
|
mgnv
|
Report
|
29 Mar 2015 00:16 |
Here are 2 consecutive enties from http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Burial: 15 Aug 1835 St Cuthbert, Halsall, Lancs. Anne Kirby - Age: 2 Years Abode: Halsall Buried by: R.Leigh Register: Burials 1813 - 1844, Page 125, Entry 997 Source: LDS Film 1849658 Burial: 25 Aug 1835 St Cuthbert, Halsall, Lancs. Thomas Cheetham - Age: 3 Months Abode: Haskayne Buried by: R.Leigh Register: Burials 1813 - 1844, Page 125, Entry 998 Source: LDS Film 1849658
================
Births Dec 1838 (>99%) Houghton Ann Ormskirk 21 499
Births Jun 1841 (>99%) Houghton John Ormskirk 21 572
Even if you've got a hit in the GRO index, it's worth checking if there's also a local index online, see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd so, using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1838 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HOUGHTON Ann North Meols North Sefton NEWTON NM/1/180
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1841 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HOUGHTON John North Meols North Sefton NEWTON NM/2/227
I have no problems identifying folk named Nancy as Ann - both my gran Nan and my Auntie Nancy had their births rego'ed as Annie. However, the age is more problematic - if (as was likely) Ann was rego'ed week in Oct abt 1 w in, then she probably was 3-4 m shy of age 3 on 6/6/1841.
Ormskirk RD births in 1838q4 occupied pp 483-517, and one can guess from its position when a birth on p 499 occured. HOWEVER, it's not it's position in the Ormskirk RD births that matters - what matters is its position in the North Meols subdistrict births that matters.
I've appended the local ref to some GRO index hits:
Births Sep 1838 (>99%) HESKETH Peter Ormskirk 21 488 NM/1/175
Births Dec 1838 (>99%) STOPFORTH William Ormskirk 21 498 LAT/1/39 HESKETH Margaret Ormskirk 21 499 NM/1/176 >> Houghton Ann Ormskirk 21 499 NM/1/180 BEARMAN Margaret Ormskirk 21 504 NM/1/230 SHEPHERD Catherine Ormskirk 21 505 OK/1/37
Births Mar 1839 (>99%) Spencer Mary Ann Ormskirk 21 527 NM/1/231
Here we can see there were 55 North Meols subdistrict births rego'ed in 1838q4, and our Ann is the 5th entry, so with a steady daily rate of registration, that is 8-9 d. (Obviously a steady daily rate is a fiction - e/e's alone see to that - but it does give a ballpark guess.) One has 6 w to rego a birth. LancsBMD indexes by year of event, not quarter of registration. Usually, this only effects late Dec births who weren't rego'ed before the new year - e.g., Mary Ann Spencer above is indexed in 1838. The local ref has 3 elements - a subdistrict code like NM=North Meols (or church code for marrs); a register sequence # like 1 here; an entry # or page #. The local registrars' books had 100 p - 5 entries per page for Bs & Ds, and 2 for Ms; - church regos had 250 pp (at 2 entries per p). Entry #s are usually used for marrs, so one knows who wed whom - here entry #s are used in North Meols, and page #s in the preceeding and following subdistricts - Lathom & Ormskirk. The local registrars made copies of the updates in the previous quarter on special (initially double-sized) sheets for the GRO, and sent them this copy to serve as a back-up copy.
|