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need help to find out if john malyon died young i cannot find him in census with parents any help to solve this please thank you

John Malyon
England Births and Christenings
Name: John Malyon
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 29 Aug 1819
Christening Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father's Name: John Malyon
Mother's Name: Mary Sarah

Well if he did survive he was probably not living at home by 1841

Have you found his parents on the census

Try Family Search site it may have him listed

Gloucestershire, Bristol Baptism Index 1660-1914 Transcription

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First name(s) John
Last name Maylon
Baptism year 1819
Baptism date 29 Aug 1819
Baptism place Bristol, St James, Somersetshire, England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Maylon
Mother's first name Mary Sarah
Mother's last name Maylon
Place Bristol, St James
Town Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Record set Gloucestershire, Bristol Baptism Index 1660-1914
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
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hi
yes in southwark surrey in 1841 what puzzels me is that my gt.gt. grandfather born in 1827 south surrey was the son of john and mary they had 2 other children born in bristol ann and elizabeth so wondered if john born in bristol died and they had my gt. gt. grandad and named him after their other son born in bristol thank you for your help

Is this the family in 1841 please?

(They all claim to be born in the county)

Elizabeth Malyon
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Gender: Female
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1047
Book: 4
Folio: 15
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
John Malyon 50
Mary Malyon 50
Elizabeth Malyon 19
Thomas Harris 20
Ann Harris 20

hi
yes thats them son john born in 1826 not 1827 was not at home this is his birth


John Malyon
England Births and Christenings
Name: John Malyon
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Aug 1826
Christening Place: SAINT SAVIOUR,SOUTHWARK,SURREY,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Malyon
Mother's Name: Mary


so if thats their son what happened to the son born in bristol 1919

mothers name was mary hunt

Elizabeth Malyon
England, Bristol Parish Registers
Name: Elizabeth Malyon
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 04 Nov 1821
Event Place: Bristol, St James, Somersetshire, England
Father's Name: John Malyon
Mother's Name: Mary Malyon

Ann Malyon
England, Bristol Parish Registers
Name: Ann Malyon
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 17 Aug 1817
Event Place: Bristol, St James, Somersetshire, England
Father's Name: John Malyon
Mother's Name: Mary Malyon

It was quite common to name a new baby after a sibling that died .


So if you can't find the first John other than his baptism it's quite possible he did die young

just cant find a death for john

this is john born 1826 in

John Malyon
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name: John Malyon
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Birthplace: Surrey
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: St George The Martyr Southwark
Sub-District: Kent Road
Parish: St George
County: Surrey 1841

Name:John Malyon <<Larceny

Age:22

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1817

Date Received:24 Jul 1839

Ship:Justitia

Place Moored:Woolwich

Date Convicted:8 Jul 1839

Place Convicted:
Central Criminal Court (Old Bailey), London




Name:John Malyon

Vessel:John Brewer

Convicted Date:8 Jul 1839

Voyage Date:1 Dec 1841

Colony:
Tasmania (Van Diemen's Land)

Place of Conviction:Old Bailey, London, England

Nice find, Gins.

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def1-2054-18390708&div=t18390708-2054#highlight

thanks for finding that i just wish i knew if it was my john malyon born 1819

Hi Yvonne

I can't find anything concrete in OZ for your man

If the above is not your man and he died before Sept 1837, there will be no death certificate for him

Can't be the same man, Yvonne.

Your gr-gr-grandfather born 1827 wouldn't have been named John if an older John was still alive.

hi
do you know if prisioners were sent home after they servered their time

Very few returned home, they didn't have the means to pay the fare.

Just out of interest, the John who was transported was a barber by trade.

Why do you think the ;Malyons in Southwark are the same family as the ones in Bristol?

because mary hunt was born there but married in southwark and their son born in 1826 went to bristol found him in census