Genealogy Chat

Hi, I am looking for my husband's g.g. grand father William Lipscombe. I have found his grandmother Amy Florence Lutman (born 1877 Sunninghill, Berks). I found their marriage on LDS in 1906 but it just lists him as 'Lipscombe' marriage 1906 no 1st name & a DOB of abt 1876. Their daughter Ivy Rosemary Lipscombe was born 1910 in Cuckfield & this is definately where they ended up as my mother-in-law was born there. However, I can't find either Amy's or William's deaths or their marriage. I have no idea where William is from & all I have is a family story of them meeting at Leeds Castle in Kent (this could be right as a census entry has Amy in Chatham, Kent). I would really like to get further on this one, however I can't afford to get the GRO to do the search for me. Does anyone have any clues as to how I can find anything about him? (I spent a good hour the other night trawling ancestry for him but as I have no idea where he was born it is a bit tricky!) Any help gladly taken!! Nico

As all you have to go on that is 'concrete' is a marriage, the cert will tell you both fathers names , which hopefully will enable us to find him in a census somewhere Jess

Sorry , thought the marriage HAD been found in 1906 Yes/ no/ maybe.... jess

Nico At least he isn't called Smith! Is this a correct summary of the facts? William Lipscombe married Amy Florence Lutman in 1906. Their daughter Ivy was born 1910 in Cuckfield. I am not sure what you mean when you say you found a reference to the marriage on LDS, as I couldn't find it and most of their records stop before 20th century. It isn't on Ancestry yet, but you could find it in the GRO records by searching on www 1837online com. Have you thought about checking the William Lipscombes on the 1901 census index? There are 12 born within 5 years of 1876: Name Age Where Born Administrative County Civil Parish Occupation William Lipscombe 19 East Ham Essex Essex East Ham Dock L William Lipscombe 19 Heath Wakefield Yorks Yorkshire West Riding Warmfield Cum Heath William Lipscombe 20 Devon Exeter Exeter Exeter Chemists Labourer William Lipscombe 20 Lon Hackney London Clerkenwell Hotel Cellarman William Lipscombe 21 Hants Basingstoke Southampton Basingstoke General Labourer William Lipscombe 21 Sussex Brighton Brighton Brighton Plumber William Lipscombe 22 Warwicks B Ham ... Railway Civiler William Lipscombe 24 Silverton Devon Exeter St Thomas Tailor William Lipscombe 25 Durham Stockton Middlesbrough Middlesbrough Baker William Lipscombe 26 America Newjersey British Subject Berkshire St Mary Packer Biscuit Factory William Lipscombe 27 Oxford Cumnor London Paddington Student Holy Orders William Lipscombe 28 Berks Newbury Berkshire Newbury Chairmaker His occupation will be on Ivy's birth cert. nell

Is this Amy on the 1881 John Lutman Head 49 Bricklayer birthplace Sunninghill Address Wilderness Cott 2, Sunninghill Sophia Lutman Wife 38 birthplace Sunninghill John C Lutman Son 17 Labourer birthplace Sunninghill Henry Lutman Son 15 Labourer birthplace Sunninghill Caroline Elizabeth Lutman Daur 12 Scholar birthplace Sunninghill Alfred Edfward Lutman Son 10 Scholar birthplace Sunninghill Albert Simms Lutman Son 8 Scholar birthplace Sunninghill William G Lutman Son age 5 Scholar birthplace Sunninghill Amy Flora Lutman Daur 3 Scholar birthplace Sunninghill Joseph F Lutman Son 1 birthplace Sunninghill

Jim , you have a look at 1901 - more William Lipscombe born Sussex than you can shake a stick at! -possible - Alice Ethel Lipscombe abt 1879 Plumpton, Sussex, England Daughter Plumpton Green, Plumpton, Sussex, England Edwin Henry Lipscombe abt 1869 Havant, Hampshire, England Son Plumpton Green, Plumpton, Sussex, England Gilbert Charles Lipscombe abt 1874 Havant, Hampshire, England Son Plumpton Green, Plumpton, Sussex, England John Arthur Lipscombe abt 1880 Plumpton, Sussex, England Son Plumpton Green, Plumpton, Sussex, England Levinia Lipscombe abt 1864 Havant, Hampshire, England Daughter Plumpton Green, Plumpton, Sussex, England Mary Lipscombe abt 1842 Rogate, Sussex, England Wife Plumpton Green, Plumpton, Sussex, England Walter Edward Lipscombe abt 1871 Havant, Hampshire, England Son Plumpton Green, Plumpton, Sussex, England William Lipscombe abt 1838 Westbourne, Sussex, England Head Plumpton Green, Plumpton, Sussex, England William George Lipscombe abt 1877 Ditchling, Sussex, England Son Plumpton Green, Plumpton, Sussex, England

Dear All, I don't want to incur the wrath of those too ungrateful or not specific enough, so shall attempt to answer all questions. Yes that is the Amy that I found ie. parents that are John & Sophia Turner. There definately is an Amy there for the marriages on LDS but as my husband is watching the footie & I have drunk 3/4 of bottle of wine will have trouble finding it, hang on here it is: 04 NOV 1877 Sunninghill, Berkshire, England Christening: Spouse: Lipscombe Family Marriage: About 1906 , , England definately in IGI. I promise that I am one of those looked everywhere/nowhere types. I have searched LDS, ancestry, 1837 (although have obviously been proved a fool as there is a William George for 1877 in Cuckfield!) etc etc. Many many thanks for all looking/ reading. I do appreciate all the help. Nico (P.S Again, bear in mind the wine- had slightly trippy experience reading the post re: cats & saucers etc!)

Woops I mean NOT one of those looked everywhere/nowhere types. Told you I was tipsey! Nico

Now I am even more confused. If they were on the IGI it should give a place and date. And why are Amy Lutman's parents called Turner?! nell

Dear Nell, No, the christening is listed as Sunninghill, Berks but marriage has no location & is vague to say the least!. Sorry to confuse, mother was Sophia Turner(1842) father John Lutman (1832) Nico

LIPSCOMBE, William 1877 September Births Reading Berkshire same area as birth 1881 census Charles A. Lipscombe abt 1879 Reading, Berkshire, England Son 54 Leopold Road, Reading St Giles, Berkshire, England Eliza Lipscombe abt 1814 Lewknor, Oxfordshire, England Unknown 54 Leopold Road, Reading St Giles, Berkshire, England Emma Lipscombe abt 1847 Warborough, Oxfordshire, England Wife 54 Leopold Road, Reading St Giles, Berkshire, England Richard Lipscombe abt 1813 Lewknor, Oxfordshire, England Unknown 54 Leopold Road, Reading St Giles, Berkshire, England William Lipscombe abt 1852 Lewknor, Oxfordshire, England Head 54 Leopold Road, Reading St Giles, Berkshire, England William Lipscombe abt 1878 Reading, Berkshire, England Son 54 Leopold Road, Reading St Giles, Berkshire, England

The info you found on www.familysearch.org was NOT from the IGI (which is taken from parish baptism/marriage registers) but from the ancestral file, so it is less reliable, but might be right. nell

Dear Jim, Sarah & Nell, Many many thanks. You are stars that burn bright in my universe!! I have been stuck for sooooooo long here (well actually only 6 months but it seems long to me!)! Many, many thanks I am very indebted to you. I'm not very good, but if I can ever return the favour..... You're fab (& I really, really love you!) Nico XXX

Nico I can't resist flattery! nell