Genealogy Chat

I searched for a long time for my great grandmother's death cert. I knew EXACTLY when she died in 1892 because I have her will. However she did not appear anywhere. Her name was Sarah Peck. Eventually I looked for death of ALL Sarahs in the small town where she lived. You can do it on FreeBMD if you go quarter by quarter. There is a Sarah Peek there and I'm confident that this is her but haven't got round to sending for the cert yet. Anne

Thank you for all your replies about William Poole , I have his marriage certificate says fathers name was George and a weaver, they had 4 children 2 born in Haverhill 1872 & 1874 one son born 1882 George and the last son born 1889 Albert these last 2 were born Edmonton Middlesex, his wife remarried in 1893 in a church in Edmonton, he is down as deceased on his eldest daughters marriage cert. she was married in Edmonton in 1892 have all those certificates. Williams certificate says a clear age 24 when he married in 1871 and the 1881 census is a clear 44. If he did not die I can't find him on the 1891 census at he was only a farm labourer. for three years I have tried everything I can think about to find him. If he died earlier than I thought and the last child was not his I still can't find a death for him. thank you Margaret

Margaret - my great-great-grandparents were living just a few doors away from each other on the 1891 census, she is listed as 'widow' and he as 'married' (not with a new wife)! So you can't be certain he died before 1891 just because his wife was calling herself a widow. Kate.

Seems like a lot of questions to be answered. Birth 1837-1847 its possible this is two different people someone of the same family born in the same area. Have you check for any others born 1835-1848, they didn't always know where they were born only where they lived. Check them all out burials/deaths marriages and censuses. You can then at least end up with something to work on. I take it you have the marriage certificate, so will have a fathers name, if not try and find it. Could they have split up before the child was born were there any other children. Was she really a widow many said they were widow/ers just so they could marry again. What was his occupation, did it mean he travelled. If he travelled then they may not have known his age. Also did he have anything on him to give his name. Were there any outbreak of illnesses such as TB. Make a list and try and answer them all it will take time but its worth it. Irene

thanks Kathleen will order that certificate but think I have matched that person to the 1881 census Margaret

There is this death on Ancestry:- Name: Poole, William Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 50 Quarter: June Year: 1890 District: St Giles County: London Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 372 he may not have died in the area where he lived, and if his age changes in the census, you can't be sure of his age. Kath. x

When his wife appeared in the 1891 census as 'widow' was she in the same area as they used to live. It's just that in those days ordinary people found it very difficult to divorce and sometimes people just split up and moved to a different area and called themselves 'widows' and then remarried whilst still married to someone else. Could this have happened if there is no death to be found? Kath. x

When someone dies you have to get a doctor to certify the death - this is sometimes called a death certificate and it is what you need to bury someone. It is NOT the same as a death cert you get by registering a death. So its possible though unlikely that the person could be certified dead and buried/cremated without the death being registered. nell

I have a 'Frank Hicken' who is a few months old on 1881 and his baptism is registered in the local parish records. I have not been able to trace his birth on the GRO under any spelling. As he was illegitimate and may have been adopted I can only assume his mother did not register him (it would be quite different with a death).

Thank you for your replies here is what I know about him his name William Poole somtimes without the e (Pool)marrige certificate says he was 24 in 1871 10 years later the 1881 census says he was 44 and was living in Edmonton Middlesex in 1889 his wife and him had a son Albert he is named on the birth certificate as the father and in an occupation, his wife appears on the 1891 census as a widow and she remarried in 1893. Edmonton registrar office have done a search for him so has Haringay and I haved phoned the all local cemeterys in the area can't find a record of his death anywhere, I really hoped I would and the perhaps I would get his correct age as I can.t find him on any other census or a birth certificate he came from Haverhill Suffolk and that is where he married Emma Ransom in 1871. Thank you all Margaret

Hi Margaret,, Answer to your Q is no,,not without a death cert would he have been buried;/cremated ; and certainly not in them years ;;so he is out there somewhere ,,,ages can vary ,depending on how much the informant knew and who it was,,, Kay. Margaret post the details and see if he can be found>>>

Worth posting the details , so someone can look it up for you. Are you sure that's when he died? If you put name, + area info etc that you have , Maybe you'll find him........more eyes looking are better than one pair! Good luck with it. Ann ps........I shouldn't have thought he'd be buried without a death cert.

Hello Anne I have looked on the gro at the records office the only thing I am sure of is he died between those years and I am not sure on his age either as I have conflicting age differences as to how old he was, I just wondered if he could have been buried without a death certificate thank you Margaret

Where have you looked Margaret? It could be spelt differently or, as in one I was looking for Transcribed in the wrong place! You could ask someone for a look up on here , to check. Ann

Hi would a death gone unregistered in 1889-1892? searched for 3 years never found it anyone got any answers thank you Margaret