Genealogy Chat

As the National Health didn't start until after WW2, you won't find a number for her. Did he never speak of his mother. That would give a clue whether she lived near him or not. Elec Rolls may give some answer later if you find she was still living in the UK. Irene

Alice From what you are now saying 'he was conceived in Ireland', do we assume that Kathleen was born in Ireland, if so there is no point in trying to find her in any census for England prior to his birth. Victor.

I'm not sure when national insurance numbers started but I doubt they were around back then. The only way I think that you can track her is to wade through the GRO indexes for either a marriage or a death but seeing as you don't have any information on her that might be hard. The next census should help you but it won't be released until 2012! Hopefully someone else will be able to suggest something. Rachel

hanks rachel i have written last post down in my book , i remember my mother saying he was conceived in ireland born in birkenhead, is there anyway if kate worked as domestic cook ,that i could get her insurance no or such alice

hanks rachel i have written last post down in my book , i remember my mother saying he was conceived in ireland born in birkenhead, is there anyway if kate worked as domestic cook ,that i could get her insurance no or such alice

Alice The Kate Farrell in 1901 born Ireland age 28 is living with a solicitor @ 13 Alton Road, Oxton, Birkenhead. The household are: George A Hartings, Head, abt 1866 b Ireland Solicitor Eleanor F Hartings, Wife, abt 1867 b Heswall, Cheshire George L Hartings, Son, abt 1895 b Birkenhead, Cheshire Arleen E Hartings, Daughter, abt 1896 Birkenhead, Cheshire Elizabeth K Hartings, Mother, abt 1835 b Ireland Kate Farrell, Servant, abt 1873 b Ireland Domestic cook Jessie Messe, Servant, abt 1880 b Birkenhead, Cheshire Housemaid domestic Don't know if thats going to help any? Rachel

thanks victor i know its going to be hard work but im determend to find her , i remember my mother telling me my father lived in oliver st , not sure who with, but on the census there is a william farrel municiple policeman im looking into that alice

hi teresa myi did see that kate farrell cearns rd oxton its around area my father was born will try and look further into it kate worked for a solicitor in oxtonthere is also kate farrwell samuel st wher my fathers foster parents lived, im in scotland now but lived in pensby wirral, alice

Alice I feel you are realy going to struggle on this one. If the only reference point you have is your father's birth certificate you do not know Kathleen's age or where she was born. Do you know if she married, and if so, who did she marry? With this you can try to find the reference for that marriage and then send for the marriage certifcate which will give her age and her fathers name. If she was born in England/Wales it may be possible to find her on a census and then take it from there. Or find her on a later census. If you wish to come forwards and find out more about her after your father was born, then this would be more difficult. Hope this makes sense to you. Victor

sue my fathers birth certificate has only his mothers name on it as well as 43 warwick st birkenhead were he was born alice

Alice - do you have your father's birth certificate? Does it leave the section for father of the baby blank? What was the mother's name then? Sue G in Berks

chel kathleen lived in birkenhead cheshire in 1897 when my father was born, i do not know anything about her other than having 2 photo's and would rally love to get to know as much as i can, my father was fostered by bernard and emily mckay birkenhead on the 1901 census . alice

Alice What information do you have on Kathleen? Are you trying to get further back from her or just research her life? I found a Kathleen Farrell in 1871 but her place of birth is Marlyebone, London, daughter to Hugh and Mary Ann Farrell living in Charing Cross, London.

thanks tom i have seen the marriage of kathleen farrell, west derby looks promising as she could have been apart from william griffiths but farrell is her maiden name she never married when my father was born im stuck on these two, i do have a photo taken in domestic uniform in new york she looks in her 20s have tried ellis island,alice

i have been trying to find my g/mother to no avail but on the ld saints 1881 census there is a kathleen farrel 1860 at 9 lowry st everton l/pool born in birkenhead , she is a visitor and a general servant i do have a photo of my g/mother in domestic uniform and wondering where i can go from here, is there any way i can trace her national health no or where she worked, alice rawley