Genealogy Chat

Am doing siblings of hubbies gt grandmother. One of her sisters became a Setter. On the obit notice of their mother their is a wreath from Mr and Mrs E Setter 39 Mary Street. Now on 1901 census there is a Edward Setter and wife in Mary street. He is 6 years younger than sisters husband and was born in same town as him (not where they wer living then). Am I assuming too much to think that the two Setters are brothers and they sent flowers to his brothers mother in law?

That's a reasonable assumption, but you would need to prove the connection by finding the record of their marriage. nell

Dawn, forgive me if Im wrong here, (havent got me glasses on) but earlier didnt I find a James Setter also living in Mary Street?

Heather Yes you did. James married Alice Lethbridge and its her mothers obit that has a wreath from Mr and Mrs E Setter Mary Street, Bovey which is why I thought about a connection and can find them still there in 1901 (funeral was 1933) and all bits tie in to Edward setter being James brother. Nell will have to get Alice and James marriage cert see if Edward is a witness.

Edward won't necessarily be a witness. I think it would be better to establish his wife's maiden name. nell

Nell I am probably being really stupid here and missing the obvious but why would Edwards marriage cert help me as he is my rellies brother in law. Was just trying to see the connection as they are mentioned on the Obit they must of known her and as her daughters married name was Setters put 2 and 2 together and have come up with 5 dawn

Have you tried looking at an earlier census to put the brothers in the same household? (1891) Ann glos

Ann will try later, did have a quick look on 81 but couldn' find them 91 James is married Will try again tomorrow Thanks Dawn

Looks like Edward was a servant in the 1881 at age of 13? Looks like right age for your chap. Thirza Bolt abt 1865 North Tawton, Devon, England Servant East Hill, Bondleigh, Devon, England John Farley abt 1866 Bondleigh, Devon, England Servant East Hill, Bondleigh, Devon, England Elizabeth Isaac abt 1816 Inwardleigh, Devon, England Mother East Hill, Bondleigh, Devon, England Mahala Isaac abt 1854 Whitstone, Devon, England Wife East Hill, Bondleigh, Devon, England Thomas Isaac abt 1849 Bondleigh, Devon, England Head East Hill, Bondleigh, Devon, England Edward Setter abt 1868 North Tawton, Devon, England Servant East Hill, Bondleigh, Devon, England

AND this looks like your James - shown as born London - it may be he thought he was born in Devon (like the parents are on this) ??? :1881 James Setter abt 1863 Poplar, Middlesex, England Son 4 New St, Poplar, London, England Jane Setter abt 1828 Devon, England Wife 4 New St, Poplar, London, England John Setter abt 1831 Devon, England Lodger (Head) 4 New St, Poplar, London, England Margaret Setter abt 1865 Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter 4 New St, Poplar, London, England Mary Setter abt 1871 Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter 4 New St, Poplar, London, England Tom Setter abt 1858 Poplar, Middlesex, England Son 4 New St, Poplar, London, England John is shown as a mariner, Tom as a sail maker and James as a warehouseman. Its a possible. Gaps between kids could take Edward as a bro I guess- though it may be dad was on a long sea trip?

How do you check for Obit notices ?

sorry if this has been done. 1871 census James Setter abt 1862 Poplar, Middlesex, England Son Poplar All Saints London Jane Setter abt 1831 South Brent, Devon, England Wife Poplar All Saints London John Setter abt 1831 Newton, Devon, England Head Poplar All Saints London Margaret J Setter abt 1864 Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter Poplar All Saints London Mary M Setter abt 1870 Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter Poplar All Saints London Sarah J Setter abt 1856 Bromley, Middlesex, England Daughter Poplar All Saints London Tom Setter abt 1858 Bromley, Middlesex, England Son Poplar All Saints London 1861 census Agnes A Setter abt 1860 Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter Poplar Middlesex Jane Setter abt 1829 Exeter, Devon, England Wife Poplar Middlesex Jno Setter abt 1831 Exeter, Devon, England Head Poplar Middlesex Jno L Setter abt 1852 Exeter, Devon, England Hass Son Poplar Middlesex Sarah J Setter abt 1856 Bromley, Middlesex, England Daughter Poplar Middlesex Tom Setter abt 1858 Bromley, Middlesex, England Son Poplar Middlesex Chandler, Sarah 1850 December Marriages Newton Abbot Devon Langmead, Louisa 1850 December Marriages Newton Abbot Devon Luscombe, Jane 1850 December Marriages Newton Abbot Devon Setter, John 1850 December Marriages Newton Abbot Devon Small, William Charles 1850 December Marriages Newton Abbot Devon

This is that family in 1861: John L Setter born 1852 is actually down as Head's son (it is on the next page of the census) and a scholar. But to be honest I am having my doubts now that this is the right lot. Agnes A Setter abt 1860 Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter Poplar Middlesex Jane Setter abt 1829 Exeter, Devon, England Wife Poplar Middlesex Jno Setter abt 1831 Exeter, Devon, England Head Poplar Middlesex Jno L Setter abt 1852 Exeter, Devon, England Hass Son Poplar Middlesex Sarah J Setter abt 1856 Bromley, Middlesex, England Daughter Poplar Middlesex Tom Setter abt 1858 Bromley, Middlesex, England Son Poplar Middlesex There is also this lot still in Devon in 1861: Charles Setter abt 1850 North Tawton, Devon, England Son North Tawton Devon Charlotte Setter abt 1861 North Tawton, Devon, England Daughter North Tawton Devon Clara Susanna Setter abt 1856 North Tawton, Devon, England Daughter North Tawton Devon Frederic Setter abt 1851 North Tawton, Devon, England Son North Tawton Devon Jane Setter abt 1835 North Tawton, Devon, England Wife North Tawton Devon Jane Setter abt 1859 North Tawton, Devon, England Daughter North Tawton Devon John Setter abt 1823 Tedburne St Mary, Devon, England Head North Tawton Devon John Setter abt 1855 South Tawton, Devon, England Son North Tawton Devon Solomon Setter abt 1852 North Tawton, Devon, England Son North Tawton Devon AND this lot in 1871: The first name should be John Setter Head (as on image!!) Jane Setter abt 1833 North Tawton, Devon, England Wife North Tawton Devon Jane Setter abt 1856 North Tawton, Devon, England Daughter North Tawton Devon Jane Setter abt 1831 South Brent, Devon, England Wife Poplar All Saints London Mary Jane Ellen Setter abt 1865 Coffinswell, Devon, England Daughter Coffinswell Devon Margaret J Setter abt 1864 Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter Poplar All Saints London Sarah J Setter abt 1856 Bromley, Middlesex, England Daughter Poplar All Saints London

This is everyone in North Tawton in 1861, so it's just a question of which households James and Edward are in. Charles Setter abt 1851 location, Devon, England relationship North Tawton Devon Charlotte Setter abt 1860 location, Devon, England relationship North Tawton Devon Clara Setter abt 1854 location, Devon, England relationship North Tawton Devon Edward Setter abt 1868 location, Devon, England relationship North Tawton Devon Ellen Setter abt 1865 location, Devon, England relationship North Tawton Devon James Setter abt 1862 location, Devon, England relationship North Tawton Devon Jane Setter abt 1833 location, Devon, England relationship North Tawton Devon Jane Setter abt 1856 location, Devon, England relationship North Tawton Devon John Setter abt 1827 location, Devon, England relationship North Tawton Devon Louisa Setter abt 1871 location, Devon, England relationship North Tawton Devon