Genealogy Chat

Theres a lot more of them on the IGI, but I will leave you to digest this lot and get out to the beach now! Good luck.

And a further one? EMMA MINSHALL Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 24 NOV 1829 Christening: 21 DEC 1829 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: THOMAS MINSHALL Family Mother: MARIA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Unfortunately it seems that this is probably a brothers family or something as: CHARLES MINSHALL Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 24 JUN 1820 Christening: 05 JUL 1826 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WILLIAM MINSHALL Family Mother: JANE

JOHN MANLOVE MINSHALL Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 03 MAY 1831 Christening: 08 AUG 1831 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOSEPH MINSHALL Family Mother: MARY ANN

ELIZABETH MINSHALL Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 14 JAN 1827 Christening: 07 JAN 1828 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOSEPH MINSHALL Family Mother: MARY

GI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Pedigree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PHOEBE MINSHALL Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 24 MAY 1829 Christening: 08 AUG 1831 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOSEPH MINSHALL Family Mother: MARY ANN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged

I would never discount marriages that are years after the kids were born. That led me astray when I found a couple right names marrying 17 years after the first kiddie. I sent off for the marriage cert and low and behold the grooms father proved it was them! Sometimes I think some thing happens like a marriage of a child that seems to prick their consience or perhaps a zealous vicar does!

Do you reckon this is yours too? JOSEPH MINSHULL Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 13 OCT 1820 Christening: 01 JAN 1821 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOSEPH MINSHULL Family Mother: MARY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well this looks like Elizabeths marriage - may be worth getting the certificate to see who dad was and what he did to tie it into your lot? ELIZABETH MINSHALL Female Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: WILLIAM OWEN JAMES Family Marriage: 16 JAN 1843 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information:

There is a marriage between Joseph Minshull and Mary Ann Jones on IGI but it took place in 1846 so I had discounted it.

Well you could check the older kids birth certs if they were born after 1837 or you could check out the marriage cert of the daughter who appears to have married? Have you looked on IGI?

Heather, I assumed Joseph MINSHULL Head M 54 M Master Umbrella Tube Maker Employing 12 Person Aston-War and Josh Minshull,40,,Brass Founder Jrnymn,WAR, were the same person. As it would appear the marriage would have taken place around 1820 I don't know how to check the maiden name. I've checked BMD but can't see a Minshull/James marriage Matthew

It would seem very possible, ages tended to be rounded down to the nearest five so Josh could easily be Joseph of the 1851? He did well for himself in those ten years! Similar line of work. As the visitor is likely to be a relative, have you checked if the wife was a Matthews before she was a Minshull? Also that the daughter Elizabeth married a James? And a few of the kids in the 1841 are missing in the 1851 when they are seemingly too young to have left home - have you checked for deaths? Dont know really, likely it is them but could be close rellies I guess?

Hi again folks, I wondered what your thoughts are on this, Sheila Roberts very kindly did a dearch for my gt gt grand mother Phoebe Minshull on the 1851 census and came up with this: Joseph MINSHULL Head M 54 M Master Umbrella Tube Maker Employing 12 Person Aston-War Mary Ann MINSHULL Wife M 50 F Umbrella Tube Maker Aston-War Elizabeth JAMES Daur M 35 F Umbrella Tube Maker Aston-War John MINSHULL Son U 18 M Brass Caster Aston-War Charles MINSHULL Son U 17 M Umbrella Tube Maker Aston-War Phoeby MINSHULL Daur U 15 F Umbrella Tube Maker Aston-War Jane MINSHULL Daur U 12 F Scholar at Home Aston-War Eleanor MINSHULL Daur U 10 F Scholar at Home Aston-War Samuel MINSHULL Son U 7 M Scholar At Home Aston-War George MINSHULL Son U 5 M Scholar at Home Aston-War Walter MINSHULL Son U 3 M Scholar at Home Aston-War John MATTHEW Vist W 59 M Chelsea Pensioner Weddington-War Sarah JAMES GDau U 2 F --- Aston-War Address: 28 Green St, Deritend Census Place: Aston Aston, Warwickshire Which all fits with other info I have (Phoebe went on to marry Joseph Marshall) Now I then checked on the FreeCen 1841 Warwickshire project and found: Green St Deritend,1,Josh Minshull,40,,Brass Founder Jrnymn,WAR, ,,Mary Minshull,,40,,WAR, ,,Josh Minshull,20,,Caster Jrnymn,WAR, ,,Ann Minshull,,20,Tip Turner Jrnymn,WAR, ,,Emma Minshull,,15,Pen Worker Jrnymn,WAR, ,,Betsy Minshull,,15,Horn Button Maker,WAR, ,,Eliza Minshull,,14,,WAR, ,,Jno Minshull,10,,,WAR, ,,Chas Minshull,7,,,WAR, ,,Pheobe Minshull,,5,,WAR, ,,Jane Minshull,,3,,WAR, ,,Mary A. Minshull,,3,,WAR, ,,Selina Minshull,,8m,,WAR, Do you think I'm safe to assume they are the same family? Cheers Matthew

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