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Thanks everyone who has helped so far Have sent pm to all I think The only definate I can confirm is Georges death in South Shields Am working on the others Any opinions appreciated Ann

Hi Ann; Re my earlier message. There is nothing else on the BVRI for the Robinson/ Taylor marriage. This is the area that Tynemouth covers. Backworth, Bebside, Blyth, Burradon, Camperdown, Chirton, Cowpen, Cramlington, Cullercoats, Earsdon, East Hartford, Hartley, Holywell, Horton, Longbenton, Monkseaton, Murton, Newsham and South Blyth, North Shields, Preston, Seaton Delaval, Seghill, Tynemouth, Walker, Wallsend, Weetslade, West Hartford, Whitley, Willington, Willington Quay. There is a death for Robert Robinson on Ancestry for Tynemouth that would fit in the timeframe. June Quarter 1857, Tynemouth, 10b _11. The underscore means that that number is not clear. There are two deaths for Gateshead on ancestry for Robert Robinson during that time. March qtr 1855 Gateshead 10a, page 316 Sept qtr 1856 Gateshead 10a, page 257 There is a death for George Cummins on ancestry for Dec qtr 1867 in South Shields, 10a, page 387. I also checked the BVRI for the birth of William Blaylock but the closest I can come is 1852 in Canonbie, Dumfries, Scotland. Teresa

This is the entry for George from FreeBMD for the above marriage: Marriages Jun 1856 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CUMMINS George Newcastle Tyne 10b 49 Spent a long long time looking through the images on FreeBMD and there is a matching entry for Elizabeth Robson. But whether this is the right couple, I can't really say! Kate.

Have you already checked this one out? (From Newcastle BMD): Marriage Index Search Results You may perform another search by using the form at the end of this page Important Information If you 'Display Spouse' when searching for a marriage entry, our indexes sometimes display additional details. This may be because an individual was using more than one surname at the time of the marriage. Another reason may be because some entries have been entered into the system using a 'page number' rather than 'entry number.' There is more than 1 entry on a page. Year Surname Forename Initials Church 1856 ROBSON Elizabeth St Andrew Request Certificate 1856 CUMMINS George St Andrew Request Certificate 1856 BELL Elizabeth St Andrew Request Certificate Kate.

Ann - have you looked for the marriage in the GRO indexes, or just on FreeBMD? Because there are lots of gaps in FreeBMD marriages between 1851 and 1861, especially 1851, 1853, 1858 and 1860. Also, are you certain it is the same Elizabeth? If it is, then isn't it the original marriage to Mr. Robinson that we should be looking for to find her maiden name? Kate.

Are we saying (in a nutshell!!!) that between 1851 and 1861 we need to find a death for Robert Robinson and then a marriage of his widow Elizabeth Robinson to George Cummins?? and that, so far, you don't have either?? Are you thinking that Elizabeth Robinson/Cummin's maiden name might be Blaylock (so her brother is William B's father, or her unmarried sister is his mum) or that either Mr Robinson or Mr Cummins might have had a sister who became a Mrs Blaylock and was William's mum???? Merry

Hi Ann; I have sent you a message. Teresa

Teresa have sent you a message Ann

Hi Ann: I am a freebmd transcriber so just checked the original transcription. There is definitely a marriage for Elizabeth Cummins in the Dec Quarter of 1852, South Shields 10a, Page 542. So it is not a mistranscription. Sorry. Teresa

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Georgina The way this is going they could have married anywhere - but she would have been Rob(b)inson on marriage to George Thanks for looking Newcastle is near South Shields where I think they would have married She may never have married him but only called herself Cummins lol

Hi Joy If its not a mistranscription its the wrong Elizabeth

Hi To all those who have helped before this is the update Blaylock/Cummins My gt Grandfather William Blaylock born 1854 (laverick Hall Durham) no records found - Maureen checked out Durham records office and I have looked everywhere on line 1861 living with George & Elizabeth Cummins Laverick Hall age 7 visitor 1871 living with Elizabeth Cummins age 17 as nephew George now decd Back to 1851 George Cummins widow in Heworth with sons Elizabeth at Laverick Hall married to Robt Rob(b)inson gardener 1861 George Cummins is now the gardener presume Robert died and Elizabeth remarried Need to find marriage of Elizabeth to George - have found one for 1852 as Elizabeth Cummins - could this be mistranscription on FreeBMD ?? as only one male listed Marriage for Elizabeth to Robert and therefore find Elizabeths maiden name which may give some clue to Gt Grandad William Hope all the above makes sense as this dilemna will not go away - like an itch that needs permanently scratching

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