Genealogy Chat

So I managed to get a copy of my great grandmother's birth certificate. Her certificate states she was born in 1898 in 5 Grannville Road, yet when I look on the 1901 census for the address it has the right first names of her family and the right age but the surname is wrong. It has them as Tibby instead of pike. Can anyone tell me why this may be? I know it them as the mothers maiden name was Gardiner and her brother and his family are living there with them. Cheers Jenna

what are the names and where? lets have a look at the actual image Got them! View Record John Gardiner abt 1881 Paddington, London, England Brother-in-law Willesden Middlesex View Record Amy Tibby abt 1897 Willesden, London, England Daughter Willesden Middlesex View Record Anne Tibby abt 1867 Paddington, London, England Wife Willesden Middlesex View Record Edith Tibby abt 1899 Willesden, London, England Daughter Willesden Middlesex View Record Ernest Tibby abt 1893 Willesden, London, England Son Willesden Middlesex View Record Thomas Tibby abt 1866 Northamptonshire, England Head Willesden Middlesex View Record Thomas Tibby abt 1895 Hampstead, London, England Son Willesden Middlesex

It does say TIBBY too(or poss LIBBY ) but not Pike! all i can think of is she was born a Pike, her father died (what was the name of her father on the marriage cert?) and her mother remarried and they all assumed his name

But the birth certificate gives the following information When & where born - Fourth August 1898 5granville Road name - Edith Sex - Girl name & surname of father - Thomas Pike Name and maiden name of mother -Annie Pike Formerly Gardiner Occupation of father - Boot maker. This certificate was registered in september 1898

do you know for CERTAIN that you Edith had the brothers and sisters mentioned in the 1901 census Ann/Annie and Thomas are common names and may have moved by 1901

Unfortunetly I'm not certain if she had any brothers or sisters, I'm probably barking up the wrong tree here.

But there's the bro-in-law - Gardiner that fits too???!! Merry

I think maybe you might be - there will be lots of Ediths with parents named Thomas and Ann. People did tend to move about more as houses tended to be rented, i think you have stumbled across a sequence of co-incedences. the Gardiner is slightly making me doubt my theory though!

its the occupation of the father as well, kind of a co-winky-dink that their both boot makers.

Was your Edith born in Hendon district?? These children seem to be born in Willesden, which is a different district?? Can't see a birth reg that fits the others - only Ernest (In Hendon - could you confirm the district name??!). Merry

Is she married to Thomas Libby??, or has she left her husband (Pike) and moved in with Libby. Might pay to either get a BC for one of the other children and see who the mother is, or else find them on the 1891 census Peter

The registration district was hendon, but the birth was in the sub-district of Willesden.

Yey! I think I've found the GRO number for Thomas Pike's marriage!

It seems as though they changed their name from Pike to Tibby. Did your great-grandmother marry as Pike or as Tibby and who does she have as her father on her marriage cert? If you dig around, you may find out why. Perhaps Thomas Pike took the surname Tibby from another part of the family as the name was dying out. My husband's great-great grandfather changed his name from Dennis McCarthy to James McCarthy and then James Carter. But two of his children remained McCarthy and the others became Carter. I don't know why. nell

My grandfather had a copy of her death certificate and her maiden name on there is Pike, it's also Pike on the birth cert. Maybe the marriage cert will tell me something.