Genealogy Chat

hi can anyone help me i have been searching for my grans birth for ages i had found her death and marraige she was jane keough ive recentley found her birth but she is jane whitehouse her mothers maiden name do you think that it means her parents wasnt married or could she have had a different father than the one she thought any help would be most helpfull thanks very much kelly

Hi Kelly Can you give us any dates? Suzy

sorry...i have a book with all my stuff init and i cant find it at the moment but i know that she was bornjune or july 1912/1913 as jane whitehouse in walsall staffs and married thomas welsh around 1930s in walsall staffs when she got married her name was keough and she died around 1965 walsall staffs my mom was only 9 when she died and doesnt know much about her but remembers that she never got on well with her she was treated different to her siblings if any of this makes sense to you i would be really gratefull of any help thankyou kelly

Kelly Maybe she was brought up by Mr Keough and looked on him as her father, hence why he is named on the marriage certificate....Registrar asks for Father's name and she gives the name of her 'Father' Or, just as likely, she didn't know Mr K wasn't her real father and her mother hid the secret of her illegitmacy. But...As Suzy has said....Add dates and maybe someone can help you further :) Chris >>Dates added as I was typing :)

Kelly You need to get hold of a copy of her birth certificate. This will tell you if her mother was married or not. Sounds like she was only half sister to her siblings. Pauline

presumably her mother married mr keough after she was born?

Kelly This looks like it could be her: Whitehouse Jane (Whitehouse) Walsall.6b 1436 Birth 3 1913 The name in brackets is the Mother's maiden name, which suggests she was born out of wedlock. Looks like her parents married about a year later: Keough Patrick J Whitehouse Alice M Walsall.6b 1486 Marriage 4 1914 Hope that helps. Suzy

only her birth cert will tell you if Patrick is her father though

Thses look like two brothers: Keough Joseph (Whitehouse) Walsall.6b 962 Birth 2 1919 Keough William (Whitehouse) Walsall.6b 1233 Birth 1 1916 Suzy

thanks very much im going to get her birth cert to see if he is named on that thanks agin for all your help

Good point about the Father, Jess. Although, even if he is her Dad, if they were unmarried, I bet the name is blank. Suzy

do you have Alice and Patricks parents names? there are 16 Alice M whitehouse in staffs in 1901 census - and that is only guessing she was raised in staffs

I think you send off for their marriage certificate too; that will hopefully give lots of useful info. Suzy

i dont have there parents unfortuantley but i do know that alice died after jane sometime between 1966-1970 in walsall staffs that is where she lived all her life as for patrick i found him on 1901 with catherine keough i think thats his mom but theres no father

As Jane appears in the index as Jane WHITEHOUSE mothers maiden name WHITEHOUSE either both mother and father had the same surname or no father is named on her birth certificate. Only the child's christian name(s) are entered in the child's name section of the certificate and the surname on the index is taken from the father's name if given, and if not from the mother's name.