Genealogy Chat

Firstly is it common? I have a birth cert for my dads mum (who died when he was only about nine so he can't remember much about her)Edna Coles born 1921. anyway fathers name is William Coles mothers name Caroline Coles formaly Coles and i can not find a marriage for them.i have searched 1837 from 1914-1921 with no luck. any ideas please Nicky.x

It is more common than you would have thought...also it wasnt uncommon to marry a brother or siter of a late husband/wife. Suzanne

I've got loads of same surname marriages. A couple are just coincidence, but the majority are cousins of some degree. To your query - the only Coles/Coles marriages I can find with a name like Caroline are in the 1860s.

I would also check 1922 as they may not of actually married until the birth of their child. (I have a couple who had three children before they eventually married and even I went to my own grandparents wedding when I was 14 years old!) Suzanne

Have you got the death of Caroline Coles? (might be an avenue worth persuing) Suzanne

i've got two or three in my tree.

My partner's grandfather's surname was Götz. Both his parents were Götz, as was his father's mother - so 3 of his 4 grandparents were Götz - all unrelated so far as we know (although since they were all from the same little village, no doubt they'd turn out to be cousins a few generations further back).

thank you all for your replys, i am really pulling my hair out with this one. i've checked 1922 as well and still nothing! i've no idea when caroline died either, (just edna in 1958)nor do i know if there were any other children i think maybe one other?? where to now?? Nicky.x

Perhaps they married earlier than 1914? I should think it would be worth searching 1912 and 1913 on the GRO indexes because FreeBMD only goes up to about 1911. I assume you have already tried on FreeBMD? Kate.

Hi Nicky! I also had the same problem as you - same surname marriage - could not find a marriage for them anywhere! Came to the conclusion that with them having the same names they didnt bother getting hitched! ;o) Kim

Following on with an earlier suggestion, it might be worth while looking at the cross referenced surnames and seeing if William may have married a Caroline X, then checking whether Caroline married an X. One other possibility is that the question asked was misunderstood by Caroline - but that is no help at all!

Hi Coles/Coles birth Bristol district from 1912 - 1920: No Surname Forename1 Forename2 Forename3 Mothers maiden name District Page No Event Quarter Year View Image 1 Coles Alice F Coles Bristol.6a 336 Birth 4 1912 2 Coles Doris Coles Bristol.6a 223 Birth 1 1920 3 Coles Evan Coles Bristol.6a 241 Birth 3 1918 4 Coles Gladys M Coles Bristol.6a 321 Birth 3 1912 5 Coles Gladys D Coles Bristol.6a 3 Birth 4 1914 6 Coles Ivy M Coles Bristol.6a 125 Birth 1 1916 7 Coles Percy W Mcb Coles Bristol.6a 312 Birth 2 1918 8 Coles Raymond G Coles Bristol.6a 7 Birth 3 1913 9 Coles Vera L Coles Bristol.6a 563 Birth 1 1920 10 Coles Victor L Coles Bristol.6a 106 Birth 2 1920 11 Coles Walter F Coles Bristol.6a 279 Birth 2 1917 12 Coles Winifred Coles Bristol.6a 224 Birth 1 1920 Found this on IGI: Maybe nothing as years are way out and IGI is notorious for 'iffy' information. Elsie Harriet Cole Christening: 03 JAN 1883 Sparkbrook, Warwick, England Parents: Father: William Cole Mother: Caroline Cole

Where was this pls? Victoria