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I have the christening of Edward Greening in Swindon at St Marks on the 20/07/1856 and also brother John christened at St Marks Swindon Wiltshire 13/06/1858 their parents were George Greening and Ellen Stocker and they came originally from Gloucestershire , and Devon ,can any one help me find the birth ref no for Edwards birth someone kindly gave me a birth in 1853 in Gloucesterhire but it wasn't my Edward as I applied for certificate and when they tried to verify it wasn't had wrong parents him so starting out all over again, so disappointing thought it was right one and was eagerly awaiting the cert in the snail mail, I would very grateful for this info as a lot riding on this bloke he left my great granma with 7 children never to be heard of again as far as I know and maybe married again and had ten more children only way of finding out is thru birth to check if he had and what is his middle name , kind regards Lara

where have you looked so far :-) Don't want to repeat your efforts Ian

Hi Lara! Have you found him on the 1861 census? May give more of an idea on any possible middle name/place of birth/age Have just had a look on Ancestry but there are quite a few Edward Greenings! ;o) Kim

There is a Edward Greening on Familysearch with those parents but is says christened 20/7/1856 not 1858 is that the same one ??

Is this the one that you already have that is wrong?? Name: Greening, Edward Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1853 District: Cheltenham County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 319 (click to see others on page)

yes Kim that is the wrong one that I sent for the cert for felt sure was him and that they delayed christening and then when they about to sail to Australia they then thought that he should be christened but alas not him at all thanks any way regards Lara

Oh so he went straight to Oz soon after his christening then? Hmmm a tricky one!! ;o) Kim Any ideas at all of the year he was born?

yes Valerie sorry put johns year for christening there instead of edwards , I have looked in wiltshire census for 1851 but they must not have been there then and in 1861 they would have left uk to come to Australia, so maybe I'll look in 1851 in Gloucestershire for them maybe with Georges parents too thanks for jolting my grey matter Im getting worse by the minute , regards Lara

no Kim I only have the christening date sorry kim he married in Australia in around 1881 so presuming about 1854/5 Kim

Hello Ian have been to census for Wiltshire but doesn't look like they were there then and free bmd and family search I havn't got anything else to check but will try g/shire census too now thanks for interest mate regards Lara

Hi Lara - I can't find a marriage for Ellen and George or a birth for Edward - however, I have found Ellen in the 1851 census Name: Ellen Stocker Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Servant Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Offwell, Devon, England Civil parish: Charlton Kings County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Occupation: View image Disability: View image Source information: HO107/1972 Registration district: Cheltenham Sub-registration district: Charlton Kings ED, institution, or vessel: 4f Folio: 176 Page: 13 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 48 GSU Number: 87372 Not at all sure how THAT will help - but....... She was a Dairymaid and Offwell is near Honiton This is the only George Greening I can find in Cheltenham in 1851 View Record Eliza Gigg abt 1815 Berk, Arlington Wife Cheltenham Gloucestershire View Record Jemmina Gigg abt 1839 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham Gloucestershire View Record Joseph Gigg abt 1813 Chippenham, Wiltshire, England Head Cheltenham Gloucestershire View Record Mary Gigg abt 1844 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham Gloucestershire View Record Sarah Gigg abt 1843 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham Gloucestershire View Record Edward Greening abt 1844 Elmore, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham Gloucestershire View Record Eliza Greening abt 1825 Woodchester, Gloucestershire, England Wife Cheltenham Gloucestershire View Record George Greening abt 1829 Highnam, Gloucestershire, England Head Cheltenham Gloucestershire There is, on the original, a line between the family above - but NO SEPARATE ADDRESS. A sub-let situation maybe? This George is a 'Flyman' But then there is Name: George Greening Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relation: Lodger Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Stowhole, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Handsworth County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Occupation: View image Disability: View image Source information: HO107/2342 Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Brightside ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 570 Page: 34 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 128 GSU Number: 87598-87600 He is a brickmakers labourer. This appears to be the marriage of George and Ellen!! GEORGE GREENING Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: ELLEN STOCKER Family Marriage: 10 DEC 1853 Charlton Kings, Gloucester, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M020661 1754 - 1885 0856939 Film 6911597 Film Name: Greening, Edward Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1853 District: Cheltenham County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 319 (click to see others on page) I can't find another Edward Greening in the required timeframe anywhere. Am not at all sure if this will help or hinder - but it has kept me amused for the last hour and a half!! Maybe your Edward is hiding somewhere hand-in-hand with my William Lightwood!! Victoria

Victoria thank you so much, it will help no end and if there is a chance your William Lightwood came to Australia let me know and will try and help you any way I can , I'm waiting at the moment to get broadband on and then will get into Ancestry too I have dial up and its so slow its driving me mad again much appreciated kind regards Lara x

Sorry Lara - I gave you the wrong birth again!! No, My William Lightwood remained in England and was my Great grandfather. It is just that he gives three different places of birth on the census (along with very imaginative ages) and I can't find his birth although I have printed out, checked on every Wm Lightwood listed anywhere and think I shall have to give up on him. Victoria Canberra ACT