Genealogy Chat

Elaine I think I looked at that John James Whittam but it wasn't the right one. I did find in 1901 census this person but the Johnny in my family was born in Barrow - could this still be the same person???? This is from Fazakerley institute for the poor which I have to admit to not knowing much about. Name: John Whittam Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1894 Relation: Pauper Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Fazakerley Ecclesiastical parish: Walton St Peter County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Source information: RG13/3450 Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Fazakerley ED, institution, or vessel: West Derby Union Cottage Homes Folio: 101 Page: 5 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 1 Thanks for your help Helen

Helen, Theres a John James Whittam on Freebmd b Barrow F. Sep 1894 8e 787. Could this be him ? If so he may be with a relative/neighbour on 1901. Will have a look for you. Elaine .

Mel Yes that's the right family, I think 'Johnny' was born in 1890's. The death for Mary Whittam is correct September 1901 was when it was registered but I can't find reference to her on the census only William and Maggie living as servant and boarder with a Dickinson family. How else could I find her on the census - I was wondering whether I couldn't find her because she may have been hospitalised? but surely she should have been registered somewhere? It's all a mystery! Helen

Georgina My Great grandfather William was born in 1882 and sister Margaret was born 1887. Their parents were James born in 1859 and Mary born in 1861 all were born in Barrow. Helen

There is a death listed for Mary Whittam in qtr 3 1901 Barrow in Furness which gives dob of 1861 - is that the right one? If it is she would be on the 1901 census. Mel

Is this the right family? 1891 Name: Maggie Whittam Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Relation: Daughter Gender: Female Where Born: Barrow, Lancashire Civil parish: Barrow in Furness Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Barrow County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: RG12/3486 Registration district: Barrow In Furness Sub registration district: Barrow in Furness ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Folio: 11 Page: 15 GSU Number: 6098596 Mary Whittam abt 1862 Barrow, Lancashire, England Wife Willie Whittam abt 1882 Barrow, Lancashire, England Son Bridget Flim abt 1829 Ireland Mother-in-law James is on previous image 1901 Name: Maggie Whittam Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Barrow, Lancashire Civil parish: Barrow in Furness Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: RG13/4012 Registration district: Barrow in Furness Sub-registration district: Barrow in Furness ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Folio: 126 Page: 39 Household schedule number: 195 William Whittam abt 1883 Barrow, Lancashire, England Boarder Mel Esta SNAP

If this is them in 1901 Maggie Whittam abt 1888 Barrow, Lancashire, England Servant Barrow in Furness Lancashire William Whittam abt 1883 Barrow, Lancashire, England Boarder Barrow in Furness Lancashire With a Dickinson Family then this is them in 1891 Maggie Whittam abt 1887 Barrow, Lancashire, England Daughter Barrow in Furness Lancashire Mary Whittam abt 1862 Barrow, Lancashire, England Wife Barrow in Furness Lancashire Willie Whittam abt 1882 Barrow, Lancashire, England Son Barrow in Furness Lancashire Bridget Flim abt 1829 Ireland Mother-in-law Barrow in Furness Lancashire James is on the previous page but still no 'Johnny' With them !!

Helen can you post the details of when your grandfather & his sister were born also their parents names. Georgina.

I think you might be right about the name, I've been looking for a variations on the name Johnny but with no success I will probably find that he's called something completely different - very frustrating. Thanks for your help. Helen

Yes I have details of both parents deaths and their marriage - how I use this? Helen

I spent nearly a year searching for Cissie, my dad and aunt were insistant that was her real name and she was actually called Amy Lucy!!! No wonder I couldn't find her!! Tammy :~)

Oh, and another thing, my mother has various 'uncles' and 'aunts' who turn out to be her mother's second cousins or something like that! Kate.

Do you know when the parents died and when they married? Merry

I am willing to bet that Johnny wasn't his 'official' name. If you're lucky he will have been a John, but if you are unlucky then either John was his middle name or just a nickname. For instance, I have just been looking for my great-aunt's husband Stephen in the records and he turned out to be Reginald Stanley N.! Make of that what you will! Kate.

I'm going mad - my grandma tells me that she had an uncle Johnny Whittam born in Barrow in Furness late 1890's and I can't find any trace of him either by birth, death or census! Both his parents James and Mary Whittam died before the census in 1901 which has made it really difficult. I found his brother (my grandad William) and sister Margaret living together but no trace of Johnny. My Grandma believes he ended up going into the army but don't really know where to start with that - can anybody help???? Helen Yes I have all the details of their deaths and marriage, how can I use this?