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Hi all, Ok I have hit abit of a stumbling block. What I have is two sets of parents for Henry Cheeseman. As per Henry's Marriage cert I have his father as Uriah Cheeseman. This I have corrilated with the census, thus Henry was born approx 1863/4. According to the census Uriah(born Mereworth, Kent) was a confectioner (1861/71 and 81), married to a Mary Cheeseman(Castle Acre, Norfolk). On the marriage certificate of Henry (1891) he is shown as a wheelwright, which correlates forward to the 1901 census. My problem is when was Henry Born? And to which set of parents? I have two birth certificates, both from Castle Acre Norfolk.: 1) 1861, Henry Cheeseman, Father Uriah Cheeseman (wheelwright), mother Mary Cheeseman, formerly Whisker 2) 1864, Male (presumed Henry) Cheeseman, Father Uriah Cheeseman(confectioner), mother Mary Cheeseman, formely Holden. Is it possible to have two almost identical families living in close proximity? Thanks Steve

How many Henry Cheesmans born in the early to mid-1860s are there in 1871? Uriah is not that usual a name, either this is the same chap, married to two different women, or two different men who probably share ancestry - cousins, perhaps. nell

is it possible that one of the Marys was Whistler, not Whisker: Marriages 1851 Jan-Feb-Mar Kings Lynn Norfolk Volume: 13 Page: 303 Eliza Elizabeth Broughton William Brown >>> Uriah Cheesman Benjamin Collison William Cooper Susan Firth Susan Kimin King John Smith >>>Mary Whistler

There seems to be only one in all the censuses Zoe

Have you checked for a death of the first Henry maybe they named their next son(b1863/4) after him. 1871 This is your Henry is that right? Eliza Cheeseman abt 1859 Castle Acre, Norfolk, England Daughter North Elmham Norfolk Elizabeth Cheeseman abt 1867 Castle Acre, Norfolk, England Daughter North Elmham Norfolk Henry Cheeseman abt 1863 Castle Acre, Norfolk, England Son North Elmham Norfolk Mary Cheeseman abt 1829 Castle Acre, Norfolk, England Wife North Elmham Norfolk Mary Cheeseman abt 1851 Castle Acre, Norfolk, England Daughter North Elmham Norfolk Uriah Cheeseman abt 1826 Menywoth, Kent, England Head North Elmham Norfolk

On Ancestry one world tree it states that Urian and Mary Whisker were married 13 Jan 1851. And has 2 of their children named Mary Cheeseman F 1851 in West Lynn, Norfolk, William Cheeseman M 1857 in Castleacre, Norfolk, Zoe

What are the addresses on the birth certs? Zoe

This on Family search..... Henry Cheeseman Birth: 13 JUL 1861 Gayton,King`S Lynn, , Norfolk, England Christening: Death: FEB 1932 Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Uriah Cheeseman Family Mother: Mary Whisker

Uriahs birth URIAH CHEESMAN Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 14 MAR 1824 Mereworth, Kent, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JERVIS CHEESMAN Mother: ELIZABETH

I couldn't see Uriah in 1851/1861 but as I said only one Uriah Cheeseman 1871/81/91/1901.. Now could he have possibly called hiself John on the 1851 John Cheeseman abt 1825 Mereworth, Kent, England Head West Lynn Norfolk Mary Cheeseman abt 1826 Casthorpe, Norfolk, England Wife West Lynn Norfolk

1861 Bailey street Head is a Confectioner Eliza Cheesman abt 1859 Castle Acre, Norfolk, England Daughter Castle Acre Norfolk Mary Cheesman abt 1824 Castle Acre, Norfolk, England Wife Castle Acre Norfolk Mary Cheesman abt 1851 West Lynn, Norfolk, England Daughter Castle Acre Norfolk Uriah Cheesman abt 1821 Kent, England Head Castle Acre Norfolk William Cheesman abt 1857 Castle Acre, Norfolk, England Son Castle Acre Norfolk

This is from the LDS Norfolk 1851 disk John CHEESEMAN Head M 26 M Butcher Mereworth-Kent Mary CHEESEMAN Wife M 25 F Draper & Grocer Castle Acre-Norfolk Address: ---, Kings Lynn Census Place: West Lynn St Peter Kings Lynn, Norfolk Jay

Hi Stephen are you still around? I think you'll find that the second certificate you have is for a child that died. If a certificate just says male it often means the child died before he could be named and I have found this death reference which matches CHEESEMAN male Freebridge Lynn 4b 257 March 1864 So Henry was born in 1861 which matches with the census. Like others I can only find one Uriah Cheeseman. On the 1881 census he is listed as a confectioner and his son William, at the same address, is a wheelwright. Perhaps the family ran both businesses together. There are 4 other people registered on this site researching this family, presumably you are in touch with them.