Genealogy Chat

im trying to find my greatgrandad on the 1901 census but to no avail. CHARLES ALFRED SAMUEL ENGLAND b.1875 HACKNEY LONDON married to LILIAN AMELIA b.1879 SOUTHWARK they both died in 1910 when my grandad was 5....he had always said he had older brothers but we've never found them....hopefully they will be on the 1901 census.......if i ever find them! rachie

when did they marry please

These people?.... If so we might not find them with his family. Marriages Jun 1898 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- England Charles Alfred S Wandsworth 1d 1345 Sherriff Lilian Amelia Wandsworth 1d 1345

they married 1898 in wimbledon

Charles Alfred S England Year of Registration: 1898 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Wandsworth County: London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 1345 (click to see others on page) Charles Alfred S England 1898 Apr-May-Jun Wandsworth London, Surrey View Record Lilian Amelia Sherriff

yes thats them gwyneth

A bit of a long shot but what about these in 1901? View Record Lilian Englefield abt 1880 Kennington, London, England Wife Battersea London View Record Lilian Englefield abt 1900 Battersea, London, England Daughter Battersea London View Record Samuel Englefield abt 1876 Battersea, London, England Head Battersea London Probably not:)) Chrissie

nice try chrissie,thanks but thats not them,,,,,,,hes on the 1891 census with his parents+they're not mine :-( rachie

Is this them? 1901 John Samuel, 48 , St George in the East, London, England, Head , Bailiff House Agent (own account), Edmonton , Middlesex Mary Samuel, 46 , Wapping, London, England, Wife , Edmonton , Middlesex Henry S Samuel, 24 , Poplar, London, England, Son , No Occupation, Edmonton , Middlesex Charles A Samuel, 21 , Poplar, London, England, Son , Photographer (own account), Edmonton , Middlesex Ann E Samuel, 18 , Bromley by Bow, London, England, Daughter , Edmonton , Middlesex William A Samuel, 16 , Bromley by Bow, London, England, Son , Solicitors Clerk (worker), Edmonton , Middlesex Eleanor M Samuel, 13 , Bromley by Bow, London, England, Daughter , Edmonton , Middlesex

i wish!!!!!! no sorry linda.......thats not them either strange eh? i know they went abroad but that wasn't till after 1905 (when my grandad was born) they both died in 1910 of blackwater fever! (cool eh?) the strange thing is that on his death cert. charles england had an alias......GEORGE MONTAGUE KING 'the plot thickens!' rachie

And again in 1891 1891 John Samuel, 41 , St George in the East, London, England, Head , Tobacconist Shopkeeper, 234 Devons Road, Bromley-by-Bow Mary Samuel, 39 , Wapping, London, England, Wife , 234 Devons Road, Bromley-by-Bow John E J Samuel, 16, Poplar, London, England, Son , 234 Devons Road, Bromley-by-Bow Henry S Samuel, 14 , Poplar, London, England, Son , 234 Devons Road, Bromley-by-Bow Charles A Samuel, 11 , Poplar, London, England, Son , Scholar, 234 Devons Road, Bromley-by-Bow Ann E Samuel, 8 , Bromley by Bow, London, England, Daughter , Scholar, 234 Devons Road, Bromley-by-Bow William A Samuel, 6 , Bromley by Bow, London, England, Son , Scholar, 234 Devons Road, Bromley-by-Bow Eleanor M Samuel, 3 , Bromley by Bow, London, England, Daughter , 234 Devons Road, Bromley-by-Bow

Do you know the names of Lilian Amelias parents? Would they be William and Harriet by any chance? Name: Lilian Amelia Sherriff Year of Registration: 1879 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: St Saviour Southwark County: London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 169 1891 found this entry but not sure if right family Name: Lilian Sheriff Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Relation: Daughter Gender: Female Where Born: Walworth, London, England Civil parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Walworth St Pauls Town: London City County/Island: London Country: England Source information: RG12/355 Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 5 Page: 6 GSU Number: 6095465 Delie Sheriff abt 1881 Walworth, London, England Daughter Francis Sheriff abt 1882 Walworth, London, England Daughter George Sheriff abt 1890 Walworth, London, England Son Harriet Sheriff abt 1855 Lambeth, London, England Wife Harriet Sheriff abt 1886 Walworth, London, England Aunt William Sheriff abt 1850 Tonquay, Devon, England Head Wm J Sheriff abt 1884 Walworth, London, England Son 1901 this is same family but 'L' is shown on image as married Name: George Sherriff Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation: Son Gender: Male Where born: Walworth, London, England Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias County/Island: London Country: England Source information: RG13/428 Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Folio: 100 Page: 27 Household schedule number: 196 Beate Sherriff abt 1881 Walworth, London, England Daughter Elsie Sherriff abt 1896 Brixton, London, England Daughter Ethel Sherriff abt 1894 Brixton, London, England Daughter Eva Sherriff abt 1892 Walworth, London, England Daughter Francis Sherriff abt 1882 Walworth, London, England Daughter George Sherriff abt 1889 Walworth, London, England Son Harriet Sherriff abt 1857 Newington, London, England Wife Harriett Sherriff abt 1887 Walworth, London, England Daughter Herbert Sherriff abt 1900 Brixton, London, England Son L Sherriff abt 1877 Walworth, London, England Daughter W T Sherriff abt 1850 Toryway, Devon, England Head Willm Sherriff abt 1885 Walworth, London, England Son Probably the wrong family Maureen

hi glam rock chick, yes thats her parents........im not sure about the other yet.......i'll check+get back to you thanks rachie yes glam, im sure they're both her family

maureen, yes thats them.......i wonder why lilian is at home with her parents in 1901........where was her husband? why are these things never easy!!!!!!!!!!! rachie