Genealogy Chat

Thanks Esta, - that's what I shall be doing tomorrow whilst I munch my hot cross Buns. Night all. Linda x

www.freebmd.org - it's not complete but it's very useful !! OR you can look at the BMD index on Ancestry ( I think you have to register but the index and 1881 census are free )...again the transciptions aren't complete....but you can also search the BETA version images for all years ! http://www.ancestry(.)co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=8965 delete the brackets.......this is the link for the BETA images on ancestry........it's a bit time consuming but might be worth looking for a possible 2nd marriage for Jane...

Sorry Esta, I have to ask this before I can go to bed. How and where did you look up an MC so fast? Linda

Dear all, The only siblings name that I am sure of is Charle- he became a photographer in Ramsgate! I will now try to trace him and search for Jane in the 1881 census. Thanks everyone,- tommorow is another day! Linda

Couldn't find any clues in 1881.... I did find a possible MC in 1883 between a Jane platt and a James Kirby..... But this is all Maybes and very big maybes at that so I would get Alberts BC to confirm for sure who his parents were ( hopefully )...you wouldn't want to trace the wrong family ! Esta

Have you tried to find Jane in 1881 ? This might hold some clues. Just a thought ... Paul

Do you know for sure that his mother's name was Jane? If not, wait until you have the birth certificate then we can look again. If Jane was the mother, she could have married and the new husband's name could be 'hiding' your boys.

I can find no trace of them in 1901....sorry She could have remarried by 1901 and they could all have a different surname ! You say you know there are other siblings / sisters..........do you know any names ??

Hi Esta, The family that you mentioned last (father,s name also Albert Kirby), is not the right one. But thank you all for pointing out that JANE was the head of house - I am new and didn't spot that! I shall apply for Alberts birt cert. ASAP. Given that anything could have happened to Jane in the next ten years ( and that you helpful lot are not miracle workers!) what is your next suggestion for plotting the path of Jane and her boys? Linda X I

I know the paretns names are different to what you say but have you seen this Albert from 1901 Albert Kirby abt 1869 Lambeth, London, England Head Lambeth London ** Albert Kirby abt 1891 Lambeth, London, England Son Lambeth London Elizabeth Kirby abt 1873 Lambeth, London, England Wife Lambeth London Henry Kirby abt 1872 Northfleet, Kent, England Boarder Lambeth London Jessie Kirby abt 1895 Lambeth, London, England Daughter Lambeth London Mary Kirby abt 1900 Lambeth, London, England Daughter Lambeth London William Kirby abt 1897 Lambeth, London, England Son Lambeth London Emily Robins abt 1886 Lambeth, London, England Visitor Lambeth London

Name: Albert William Kirby Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Lambeth County: Greater London, London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 381 (click to see others on page) this BC would give you both parents names

I've had a look at the image for the head of household. It definitely says JANE. Her age is also in the female column. She is unmarried. If you got the birth cert for Albert it might have a father listed on it, then again maybe not. Its odd that Jane has no occupation, she must have lived on something. I'll have a look ofr her on 1901. nell

If this is the 1891 entry then it is JAne that is head ! Charles Kirby abt 1887 Lambeth, London, England Son Lambeth London Jane Kirby abt 1861 Clerkenwell, London, England Head Lambeth London Thomas Kirby abt 1888 Lambeth, London, England Son Lambeth London Albert Kirby abt 1890 Lambeth, London, England Son Lambeth London

My maternal g.father was Albert William Kirby b. 4th July 1890, England - died 1964 England. I found him on the 1891 census, living with father James Kirby (although the S on the end of James was almost not there and no occupation stated), brother Charles 4yrs ( a confirmed name for a brother) and second brother Thomas aged 3, at 17, Hinton Road, near Loughborough Junction, Brixton, London in the Civil Parish of Lambeth. Mum was not mentioned, (out at midnight with a one year old? In hospiatal? dead? etc) So not even a first name to go on. I know that there were other siblings including sisters so searched the 1901 census to try to find their next step and see if mum turns up again. I wondered if 'Jame' (as it appears) could even be 'Jane'. There is a comment in the Condition as to Marriage colomn that I do not understand. However, I cannot find a trace of the family in the 1901. Any thoughts, hints, clues? Any help will be much appreciated. Kind regards Linda