Genealogy Chat

RULE 1 .......never presume ! he could have remarried after first wife had an illness,or he himself could have been working away or been abroad or at sea etc.

Could this be your Thomas and Alice in 1841: Davenham, Cheshire HO107/121/16 folio 12 page 18 Township Wharton (part of) Address Little don fields Thomas Holland 25 Farmer Y Alice Holland 30 Y I've just looked at the 1851 census image and the age of William looks like 8 not 18 to me. (If this is so he couldn't have married in 1853 though.)

JUST A THOUGHT MY STEP NAN HAD 5 BOYS AND THEY ALL DIED BEFORE AGE 5 SO THEY COULD HAVE LOST SOME AND MAYBE MISSCARRIED DUE TO LACK OF MEDICAL HELP IN THEM DAYS AND ALL. MY NAN LOST HERS IN 20TH CENTURY SO..........THAT WAS PRETTY ROUGH!!! TRISH

Kelly Hi, Can't be certain as William married in 1853?? That would make him quite young even given the rounding up of ages on 1841? Will make a note of it anyway Kelly and chack it out further, thankyou for taking the trouble I appreciate it. Also, if that was them, where had the other children gone in 1851? Jen

Oh fiddle! Thanks for that Merry..........looks as though I will never know now who his mother was then? Does explain the huge gap though!! Jen

Looks as if Alice isn't the mother of the eldest! Marriages Dec 1840 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allbiston Frances Northwich 19 188 Allbiston Jane Northwich 19 188 BAGALEY John Northwich 19 188 >>>>HOLLAND Thomas Northwich 19 188 >>>>LEDWARD Alice Northwich 19 188 SINGLETON Ralph Northwich 19 188 WALLWORTH Sarah Northwich 19 188 Merry

Lindsey and Gloria........... No I haven't but will certainly go and have a look on those two, Thankyou. Jen

Hi Merry, it's good of you to offer, as I'm still waiting a cert for one of the children. Head Thomas Holland 1813 Born Audlem Cheshire. wife Alice Ledward 1809 born Great Budworth Cheshire Son William Henry Holland b 1833 Great Budworth son Thomas born 1846 Wharton Cheshire son John Holland b 1847 Bostock Cheshire dau Alice Holland b 1849 Bostock dau Elizabeth Holland b 1850 Bostock As found on 1851............. HO107/2166 F 292 P 4 Jen

Have you tried this website-----cheshire*org*uk replace*with full stop. It will allow you to so a surname search. Gloria :-))))

Hi Jen, have you tried the Cheshire BMD site? This may help although data is from 1837 onwards, but there may be something on here to help you. http://www(.)cheshirebmd(.)org.uk/cheshirebmd/index.html Regards Lindsey

So, do you have the mum's maiden name from the birth cert of one of the later children and then a marriage before 1833 for the parents? Maybe any inbetween children died? Do you want them looked for in 1841? (As I can't find mine, I might as well look for someone elses!) Merry

Hi Jess, Have them on 1851 Father is farmer in Bostock, Ches. Got gg grandfather in 1871 married................. Not turning them up on 1841 unfortunately? So far Merry doesn't appear to be another marriage! Jen

Have you found the family on the 1851 census? Have you considered the possibility of there being more than one marriage? Merry

what census return have you got ? 1851 and 1841 look as though they'd be useful to you

My g g grandfather was born in 1833, his siblings are born 1846, 1847, 1849 & 1850. A thirteen year gap between the firast two seems awfully huge for those days...........so obviously more sibs somewhere! Nothing is turning up on IGI........so, where would be the best place to look please? They were all born around the Cheshire area. All advice appreciated. Jen