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Hi, I have a Charles Noall born (according to dates on his marriage certificate) in 1858. I really want to order his birth certificate, however I cant find any births for a Charles Noall in this year. Have checked both Ancestry and Free BMD. If it hasnt yet been transcribed where do I go from here? Can anyone help please? Many thanks Bex.

Did you check the complete images on ancestry,or the partial index? The partial index isn't complete,the entire images are free. Glen

There's no guarantee that the birth was registered..........it wasn't compulsory until 1875. Reg

Is this him in 1861? Elizabeth A Lawry abt 1838 St Ives, Cornwall, England Visitor St Ives Cornwall View Record Charles Noall abt 1856 St Ives, Cornwall, England Son St Ives Cornwall View Record Grace Noall abt 1817 St Ives, Cornwall, England Head St Ives Cornwall View Record Grace W Noall abt 1853 St Ives, Cornwall, England Daughter St Ives Cornwall View Record Richard Noall abt 1848 St Ives, Cornwall, England Son St Ives Cornwall View Record Robert W Noall abt 1846 St Ives, Cornwall, England Son St Ives Cornwall View Record Suky H Noall abt 1851 St Ives, Cornwall, England Daughter St Ives Cornwall View Record Thomas W Noall abt 1858 St Ives, Cornwall, England Son St Ives Cornwall If so, family in 1851 Grace Noal abt 1817 St Ives, Cornwall, England Head St Ives Cornwall View Record James Noal abt 1834 St Ives, Cornwall, England Son St Ives Cornwall View Record Michel Noal abt 1841 St Ives, Cornwall, England Son St Ives Cornwall View Record Richard Noal abt 1848 St Ives, Cornwall, England Son St Ives Cornwall View Record Robert W Noal abt 1846 St Ives, Cornwall, England Son St Ives Cornwall View Record Sukey H Noal abt 1850 St Ives, Cornwall, England Daughter St Ives Cornwall And 1841.......... Grace Noal abt 1816 Cornwall, England St Ives Cornwall View Record James Noal abt 1839 Cornwall, England St Ives Cornwall View Record Michael Noal abt 1841 Cornwall, England St Ives Cornwall Reg

Hi, Many thanks for your replies. Think that must be the family. I have his father as James Noall on the marriage certificate, and a Grace W Noall was a witness. That would tie in very nicely :) Shame about not being able to find his birth for confirmation of his mother's maiden name. Thank you very much for all your help Bex

Could this be of help? I know the year is wrong...........perhaps this one died? Name: Sukey Hain Noale Year of Registration: 1843 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Penzance County: Cornwall Volume: 9 Page: 191 Here you go..............birth Name: Suky Hain Noall Year of Registration: 1850 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Penzance County: Cornwall Volume: 9 Page: 20[58] (click to see others on page) I've checked the image.......the ref looks to me like 208 Reg

Another couple of births............. Name: Grace Witch Noall Year of Registration: 1853 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Penzance County: Cornwall Volume: 5c Page: 337 Name: Robert Welch Noall Year of Registration: 1845 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Penzance County: Cornwall Volume: 9 Page: 181 Reg Reg

Marriage and Census ages are unreliable. How about this birth entry? NOALL Charles, 1855 Sept. quarter, Penzance. 5c, 286. This fits the Census entry Reg found for you. Jennifer

How about this for the marriage? Record James Noall 1838 Apr-May-Jun Penzance Cornwall View Record Grace Welch 1838 Apr-May-Jun Penzance Cornwall Volume: 9 Page: 255 Reg

If you're dealing with Cornish records there's a great deal of stuff online. Cornwall FHS, plus the census transcriptions, Cornwall Records Office and more. Christine

If this is him then marriage cert. is out by a couple of years. 1891 View Record Charles Noall abt 1856 St Ives, Cornwall, England Head St Ives Cornwall View Record James Noall abt 1890 St Ives, Cornwall, England Son St Ives Cornwall View Record Rebecca Noall abt 1866 St Ives, Cornwall, England Wife St Ives Cornwall View Record Richard Noall abt 1886 St Ives, Cornwall, England Son St Ives Cornwall

Wow, many many thanks for all the help and info. Soz, I've only just got back in. Thank you Jennifer for that birth record, I couldnt find it anywhere! Will order that certificate now. And thank you Jim, yep that is him with his wife and sons. Thank you Reg for all that info. It certainly looks like James Noall and Grace Welch would be Charles' parents. A Grace Welch Noall (his sister going by the census info) was one of the witnesses at Charles' wedding :) Have had a lot of trouble because Charles Noall married a Rebecca Williams Noall. Trying to separate the Noalls has been a nightmare. Thank you all again for all your help. Luv Bex

And thank you Christine, Ive just been on the Cornish sites again and found 3 different baptisms for Suky Noall, one of whom may have been Charles' auntie (spelt as Suckey Noall). And thank you Glen Turnip in Tinsel Knickers, great name :) Bex