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I have found an ancestor on 3 different censuses, but just can't make out his Place of Birth, due to handwriting and mis-transcriptions.

He is Thomas Harding. born c.1833 and his wife is Mary Ann, born c.1836 in Honiton.

In 1861 living in Offwell Devon.
In 1871 living in Yetminster Dorset.
In 1881 she is still living in Yetminster and tho Married he is not with her, but poss. lodging with the Chivers family in Radstock Devon.
On 1891 he is widowed and living in Yetminster wirh his sons Henry and Albert.

The place appears to be something like Stock Pers, either Devon or Somerset, but transcribed as Stockport and Hock Pers., even given as his occupation of Stock Person in one case, altho obviously transcribed into the wrong column.

I've tried the usual Google and Atlases, but having no luck at all so hope someone with better eyesight or local knowledge may be able to help. All suggestions gratefully received!

Thankyou,
Sue

Have you tryed looking at old maps from the 1800's?

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html

You can use this site and if they hold a map then you can use their navigation tool to zoom in and move the map,
some times they have several map choices on both scale and year's

Roy

The lodger in 1881 is unmarried, with occupation of Brick maker

Possible 1851. Stoke Pero?

1851 England Census
about Thomas Harding
Name: Thomas Harding
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Servant
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Stoke Pero, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Stoke Pero
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Williton
Sub-registration district: Minehead
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 1920
Folio: 6
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Rawle 30
Eliza Rawle 27
John Rawle 3
James Rawle 9 Mo
Thomas Harding 19
Wm Rawle 13


Andy

Do you have his marriage cert? His father's details might help to find him before marriage.

It is Stoke Pero.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/StokePero/index.html

There is a baptism for Thomas Harding at Stoke Pero 25/12/1831. Parents Thomas and Charlotte.

http://www.wsom.org.uk/Registers/StkPerBap18131868.htm

Need to page down to the record.

Andy

It looks like Stoke Pero to me on the 1861 census.

Kath. x

1851?
Name: Thomas Harding
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Servant
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Stoke Pero, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Stoke Pero
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Williton
Sub-registration district: Minehead
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 1920
Folio: 6
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Rawle 30
Eliza Rawle 27
John Rawle 3
James Rawle 9 Mo
Thomas Harding 19
Wm Rawle 13

Roy

Her you go
Stoke Pero
Church Farm, Exmoor National Park, Porlock, Minehead, Somerset TA24 8JT

You can find it on google map plus google earth

I think this might be him in the 1841 census:-

RIDLER, Richd M 45 1796 Somerset VIEW
RIDLER, Mary F 35 1806 VIEW
RAWLE, Ann F 20 1821 Somerset VIEW
RIDLER, Edith F 15 1826 Somerset VIEW
RAWLE, John M 20 1821 Somerset VIEW
FLOYD, Geo M 15 1826 Somerset VIEW
RAWLE, Geo M 12 1829 Somerset VIEW
HARDING, Thos M 9 1832 Somerset<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Address:
Homer Village Hornes, Luccombe

Piece: 936
Book/Folio: 6/9
Page: 13
Registration District: Williton

Williton is the right registration district for Stoke Pero and there are Rawles in the household again too.

Kath. x

1841 England Census
about John Harding Name: John Harding
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: Stoke Pero <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,,,
Hundred: Carhampton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Williton
Sub-registration district: Minehead
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 936
Book: 12
Folio: 3
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
George Soushon 17
Sarah Floid 40
Margrett Bron 16
John Harding 13

The web site i gave in my first post has maps from 1890 onwards of Stoke Pero


http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html

Go to the 1890 map then use enhanced viewer to zoom

Roy

Thankyou all so much!
I did actually reply after the first few responses, but it never appeared - I had problems writing it but it did seem to have got thro ok.

Roy - just off to look at the old maps and 1851
Reggie - re 1881, i only considered it as he was a brick maker also in 1861.
Andrew - great finds ta which look good.
Potty - not sent for any certs yet as so many of the same name marrying Mary Anns at the right time.
Ken, Kath and Thelma - all very helpful, ta.

I'm so pleased with all the info - what a great bunch of helpers!

Thanks everyone,

Sue.

Possible marriage??

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1857 (>99%)
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Croo[t_] Mary Anne Honiton 5b 45
Harding Thomas Honiton 5b 45

Mary 1851?

1851 England Census
about Mary Ann Croot
Name: Mary Ann Croot
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Visitor
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Honiton, Devon, England

Civil parish: Offwell
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Honiton
Sub-registration district: Honiton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 1863
Folio: 87
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bagwel 47
Eliza Bagwel 36
Ann Croot 7
Mary Ann Croot 15

and 1841?

1841 England Census
about Mary Croot
Name: Mary Croot
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: Honiton
Hundred: Axminster
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Honiton
Sub-registration district: Honiton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 200
Book: 23
Folio: 6
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
William Croot 50
Elizabeth Croot 50
Eliza Croot 25
Elizabeth Croot 15
William Croot 12
Emma Croot 1
Mary Croot 5




Andy

Thanks Andy - that looks a strong possibility.

Sue