Meaning of d. t. p.

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Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 1,676 Send Message	Peterkinz	Report	7 Aug 2011 01:28
	I have found the following.... "William, who married Miss Crawshay... but d.t.p. in 1828" Does anyone know what d.t.p. means? Peter in NZ
	Researching: Nurse of Brightlingsea, Spalton of Bottesford, Williams of Tenby, Lammiman of Kensington
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 12,081 Send Message	Andrew	Report	7 Aug 2011 01:57
	Well, OTP would be of this parish, but DTP..?? Andy
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 6,033 Send Message	K	Report	7 Aug 2011 04:39
	If 1828 is a later date than they married could it is signify that one of them died i.e. death them parted ?? Kay
	Researching: Anstee/Bucks; Russell/London; Durose; Pease/North Yorks; Kelly/IoM
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,079 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	7 Aug 2011 04:56
	possibly departed this place ie, died sylvia
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Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 6,033 Send Message	K	Report	7 Aug 2011 05:54
	I suppose there is also the possiblity of - Departed this Parish? Kay
	Researching: Anstee/Bucks; Russell/London; Durose; Pease/North Yorks; Kelly/IoM
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 1,676 Send Message	Peterkinz	Report	7 Aug 2011 09:11
	I was thinking along the lines of died without progeny.....but I can't get the latin - middle word should be sine..... Peter
	Researching: Nurse of Brightlingsea, Spalton of Bottesford, Williams of Tenby, Lammiman of Kensington
Member Since: October 2003 Posts: 6,033 Send Message	Huia	Report	7 Aug 2011 09:21
	The question is, in what context did you find it? Was it on a headstone, or in parish records, or what? Huia.
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Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 1,676 Send Message	Peterkinz	Report	7 Aug 2011 10:37
	It's in a book - "A genealogical and heraldic history of the commoners of great britain" Peter
	Researching: Nurse of Brightlingsea, Spalton of Bottesford, Williams of Tenby, Lammiman of Kensington
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,772 Send Message	Persephone	Report	7 Aug 2011 11:45
	Peter I have looked in the book on google and the wording is William who m. Miss Crawshay, daughter of - Crawshay esq ironmaster, ..............but d.s.p in 1828. Not d.t.p d.s.p is continually used in these books. it is demisit sine prole (died without issue)) Cheers Persie
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Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 9,259 Send Message	Porkie_Pie	Report	7 Aug 2011 15:16
	i·ne pro·le /'sa?ni 'pro?li, 's?ne?/ Show Spelled[sahy-nee proh-lee, sin-ey] Show IPA noun Law . without offspring or progeny: to die sine prole. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Origin: < Latin From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sine+prole Roy
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 1,676 Send Message	Peterkinz	Report	7 Aug 2011 19:09
	Thanks Obviously scanning changes the odd letter - the version I found definitely says t not s, but I'm happy to go along with it Thanks again Peter
	Researching: Nurse of Brightlingsea, Spalton of Bottesford, Williams of Tenby, Lammiman of Kensington
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 9,259 Send Message	Porkie_Pie	Report	7 Aug 2011 19:47
	Found this on google A genealogical and heraldic history of the commoners of Great ... - Google Books Result books.google.co.uk/books?id=-P4UAAAAQAAJ... John Burke - 1833 - History William, who m. Miss Craw- shay, daughter of — Crawshay, esq. ironmaster, Merthyr Ted- vill, but dsp in 1828. 2. Emelia, tn. to the Rev. ... It says dsp the image is very clear Roy
Member Since: December 2002 Posts: 1,676 Send Message	Peterkinz	Report	9 Aug 2011 01:53
	Thanks Roy My fault for not consulting the original properly - I had cut the extract from the PDF as text to paste into a word document, and it changed it!! It was the only letter that changed so looked to make sense when i read it - except that i didn't understand it. Anyway - it's all sorted now peter
	Researching: Nurse of Brightlingsea, Spalton of Bottesford, Williams of Tenby, Lammiman of Kensington
Member Since: October 2003 Posts: 6,033 Send Message	Huia	Report	13 Aug 2011 07:49
	Peter, are you in NZ? There was a recent death notice for a Crawshay in our daily paper. Huia.
	Researching: Avatar: Red poppy holding a yellow poppy.

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