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9 Sep 2010 22:13 |
Edward Mannell b 1766 Portesham died 1830 married Eliz ?? had one son Thomas 1811 Sh ipton Gorge
when were they married did they have anymore children
many thanks
Joyce
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9 Sep 2010 22:26 |
Can't find the marriage but his birth is on BVRI, you probably have it.
MANNELL, Edward Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 10 Apr 1766 Recorded in: Portisham, Dorset, England Father: John MANNELL Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Film 1239223 Dates: 1731 - 1819
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9 Sep 2010 22:30 |
There's this daughter of Edward & Elizabeth in Shipton:
MANNEL, Sarah Christening Gender: Female Birthplace: Shipton Christening Date: 22 Jan 1804 Recorded in: Burton Bradstock, Dorset, England Father: Edward MANNEL Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Film 1279488 Dates: 1790 - 1823
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9 Sep 2010 22:32 |
Thank you margaret yes i have his birth not marriage never mind i have been searching now to see if other members are searching the same family
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Joyce
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9 Sep 2010 22:42 |
Is this a possibility?
Groom's Name: Edward Manwell Bride's Name: Elizabeth Hellett Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1797 Marriage Place: Burton Bradstock, Dorset, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M15826-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 1279488 Reference Number: Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973
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9 Sep 2010 22:45 |
???? Name: Mary Mannell Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 24 Mar 1808 Baptism/Christening Place: NEW MEETING BARRACK STREET-INDEPENDENT,BRIDPORT,DORSET,ENGLAND Birth Date: 19 Feb 1808 Father's Name: Edward Mannell Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07412-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 590698 Reference Number: Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
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9 Sep 2010 22:50 |
There's also this.
Name: Thomas Mannel Event Type: Baptism Christening Date: 01 May 1805 Christening Place: Bridport, Dorset
Father's Name: Edward Mannel Mother's Name: Betty Mannel Record Set: RG4_0457 Collection: England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8)
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9 Sep 2010 22:52 |
Ozibird
Thanks a lot for that info it seems very likely doesnt it but they must have had a son to keep the surname going
Joyce
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Ozibird
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9 Sep 2010 23:09 |
Which couple must have had a son?
Ozi
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9 Sep 2010 23:19 |
sorry ozibird my eyes are playing up i never saw thomas you added i have conjunctivitis also a macular hole in the other eye everything has gone wrong the last two months cant wait to get back to normal i dont sopose you know who thomas married and had any children do you i know im asking a lot as its very kind of you to look for me
Joyce
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10 Sep 2010 06:59 |
You've probably got this one. 1841 England Census Name: Thomas Mannel Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Dorset, England Civil parish: Shipton Gorge Hundred: Godderthorne County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: Street
Occupation: Ag lab
Registration district: Bridport Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock Household Members: Name Age Edward Mannell 80 - Pauper Elizabeth Mannel 65 Thomas Mannel 30
1851 England Census Name: Thomas Mannell [Thomas Mannel] Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1807 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England Civil parish: Shipton Gorge County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: In Street
Occupation: Farmers labourer
Condition as to marriage: Batchelor
Registration district: Bridport Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock Household Members: Name Age Thomas Mannell 44
And there's this bloke. 1851: Thomas Mannel abt 1804 Bridford, Dorset, England Visitor Poole St James, Dorset - mariner; married; Thomas Alley
1861 England Census Name: Thomas Mannell [Thomas Mannel] Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1807 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England Civil parish: Shipton Gorge County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: Private House
Occupation: Carter
Condition as to marriage: unmarried
Registration district: Bridport Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock Household Members: Name Age Thomas Mannell 54
1871 England Census Name: Thomas Manuel [Thomas Mannel] Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Shipton George, Dorset, England [Shipton Gorge] Civil parish: Shipton George Ecclesiastical parish: Sarum Town: Shipton George County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: None recorded
Occupation: Ag lab
Condition as to marriage: Batchelor
Registration district: Bridport Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 72 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Manuel 65
1881 England Census Name: Thomas Manuel [Thomas Mannel] Age: 76 Estimated birth year: abt 1805 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England Civil parish: Shipton George County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: New Inn
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Condition as to marriage: unmarried
Registration district: Bridport Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock Household Members: Name Age John Manuel 71- Head; widow; Shipton Gorge Thomas Manuel 76
Deaths Dec 1888 Manuel Thomas 84 Bridport 5a 233
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10 Sep 2010 07:22 |
1841 England Census Name: John Mannell Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where born: Dorset, England Civil parish: Shipton Gorge Hundred: Godderthorne County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: Street
Occupation: Ag lab
Registration district: Bridport Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock Household Members: Name Age John Mannell 25 Ann Mannell 25 Mary Ann Mannell 1
1851 England Census Name: John Mannell Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Mannell Gender: Male Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England Civil parish: Shipton Gorge County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: Peashill Napp
Occupation: Labourer/Inn Keeper
Registration district: Bridport Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock Household Members: Name Age John Mannell 40 Ann Mannell 25 - Beer Shop Inn _____?? Mary Ann Mannell 11 James Crabb 30 - servant, farm labourer All born Shipton Gorge
1861 England Census Name: John Mannell Age: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Mannell Gender: Male Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England Civil parish: Shipton Gorge County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: Peashill New Inn
Occupation: Inn Keeper
Registration district: Bridport Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock Household Members: Name Age John Mannell 49 Ann Mannell 35 Mary Ann Mannell 21 All born Skipton Gorge
Marriages Jun 1867 GALE William Stone Bridport 5a 745 MANNEL Mary Ann Bridport 5a 745
1871 England Census Name: John Manuel Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Manuel Gender: Male Where born: Shipton George, Dorset, England Civil parish: Shipton George Ecclesiastical parish: Sarum Town: Shipton George County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: New Inn
Occupation: Inn Keeper
Registration district: Bridport Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock Household Members: Name Age John Manuel 60 Ann Manuel 45 Harriet Gill 4 - niece; scholar
Deaths Dec 1876 MANNEL Ann 50 Bridport 5a 235
1881 England Census Name: Mary Ann Gale Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William Gale Gender: Female Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England Civil parish: Shipton George County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: New Inn
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Bridport Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock Household Members: Name Age William Gale 41 - Carpenter; Shipton Gorge, Dorset Mary Ann Gale 41 Frances Elizabeth Gale 6 Mary Ann Gale 5 John William Gale 4 Thomas Gale 2
1891 England Census Name: John Mannell Age: 81 Estimated birth year: abt 1810 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Shipton George Civil parish: Shipton George Ecclesiastical parish: Shipton George Town: Shipton George County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: Peas Hill New Inn
Occupation: Publican
Condition as to marriage: widower
Registration district: Bridport Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock Household Members: Name Age John Mannell 81 William Gale 50 - carpenter Mary Ann Gale 50 Mary Gale 16 John Gale 15 - Mason's Assistant Thomas Gale 9 - scholar
??? Deaths Mar 1899 Mannel John 87 Bridport 5a 247
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10 Sep 2010 08:02 |
Ozibird
You have been so busy i am confused now i will give you the parents and the male children for this family as i want to trace descendants ive just thought i have been so silly as the children of the other males could have had sons i am so sorry i must be going senile
John Mannell b 1730 portesham dorset m eliz watkins 1764 st peters portesham they had nine children
Thomas 1764 m jane thorner punknowle dorset
edward 1766 m eliz hellett
james 1775 m hannah miller
joseph b 1768 waddon not married
edward b 1766 whos married eliz hellett 23/7/1797 shipton burton bradstock
looks like they had a sarah b 1804 shipton burton bradstock thomas 1/5/1805 shipton gorge mary 1808 shipton burton bradstock
Joyce from portsmouth uk
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10 Sep 2010 08:24 |
ozibird please dont look for anymore as im thinking i am tracing the wrong mannells ill wait to my eyes are clearer
i am so sorry
Joyce
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Ozibird
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10 Sep 2010 21:24 |
No worries, Joyce. There are plenty of Mannells/Mannels/Manuels in the area. It would be easy to get them confused.
Don't hesitate to ask again when you're ready.
Ozi
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