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SOooooooo sorry,Sylvia!!! You have helped me more than once and I really DO appreciate the help - just missed the name in my excitement.
love
Jill

what about me???

I thought that was that when I went to bed after that generous help, but I got up this morning to find you had completely "cracked it"
Thanks a heap Jan and Glitter Baby
love
Jill

The 1861 Census says samuel (father) is Merchant Importer of Brushes



sylvia

The 1891 Census image shows Rosser's occupation to have been first written as Bridle Merchant, then Bridle was crossed out, and Brush noted



so it became Brush Merchant


it is Brush Merchant in 1901


and guess what?

It was family business!!


1851 Census

Name: Rosser S Dean
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Kentish Town

Samuel Dean 47 b.ca 1804, Tatton, Somerset, Merchant trading with Russia
Mary Dean 40
Rosser S Dean 12
Mary Kate Dean 11
Frances A Dean 9
Arthur Dean 8
Frederick I Dean 4
Jessie Dean 3
Maria J Wheeler 21
Margaret Selk 30
Elizabeth F Ford 27
Sophia Tofts 21

Address:- The Gothic


problem solved!!




sylvia

Thanks for all that interesting help.
Jill

It does look as if his first name on the image of the 1881 census is actually ROSSEL, not Ronel ...... so maybe an alternative name change should be sent in


and it does look as if it says Russia Merchant

His wife is down as Merchant's Wife



I think it just means that he was a merchant whose main business was in trading with Russia


he didn't have to be Russian to do that.



just an entrepeneur :))))))



Looking at your other question re Ada Woods

Thye have a lot of servants living in in the Priory


I think it more likely that Ada was General Domestic Servant to the Frederick Wyall, the Coachman, and his wife.

They did have rather a lot of children ........ and Domestic Servants came pretty cheap in those days.





sylvia

Looking at 1881 image, in view of above, looks like Rosser.

Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%)

Cleather Alice Jane Bedford 3b 518
Dean Rosser Samuel Bedford 3b 518

Some kind of merchant - British possibly:


1901 England Census

Name: Rosser S Dean
Age: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Alice J
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London

Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St John, Paddington

Rosser S Dean 62
Alice J Dean 57
Olive M Dean 28
Elsie K Dean 27
Ursala F Dean 25
Catherine I Dean 23
Alice L Dean 20

Name: Olive Mary Dean
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 6 Jun 1872
Father's Name: Roper Samuel Dean
Mother's Name: ??Eice Jane Dean
Parish: St Stephen, Paddington
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex


Just gives occupation as merchant



Name: Ursula Frances Dean
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 27 Jul 1875
Father's Name: Roper Samuel Dean
Mother's Name: Alice Jane Dean
Parish: St Stephen, Paddington
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex

For info:

1881 England Census

Name: Ronel Samuel Dean
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Alice Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Wimbledon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: The Ridgway Paddock "The Priory"
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Russia Merchant

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon

Ronel Samuel Dean 42
Alice Jane Dean 37
Olive Mary Dean 8
Elsie Kate Dean 7
Ursula Frances Dean 5
Catherine Ivy Dean 3
Alice Lilian Dean

Thanks for that Jan and glitterbaby. You are close with Russia Merchant office. The name is Ronel? Samuel Dean b. Islington living at The Priory.
His family are followed by several dwellings with servants living there. I am wondering if Ada Woods b Kings Ditton, Surrey age 16 living in The Priory stables as dom serv could be attached to this merchant along with the coachman's family she lives with.
Jill

Is it the Cooper family?

Name: Auberey Hay Cooper
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Hay
Mother's Name: Gertrude Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Wimbledon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: (Copse Hill)
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Clerk Russia Merchant Office

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hay Cooper 55
Gertrude Mary Cooper 44
Auberey Hay Cooper 21
Liliam M. Hay Cooper 13
Isabel M. Hay Cooper 11
Mary Taynton 24
Eliza Clark 33
Mary Ann Boley 26
Adolphe Bachman 24

Jillian. maybe if you post details on here we can have a look and check what it says? If it's very clear I would assume he was involved with trade with Russia.
jan

An occupation given on the 1881 census in a 'posh' area of Wimbledon is "Russia" merchant. The gentleman is NOT Russian!
Does anyone have any idea what that could have been please?
thanks for any help
Jill