Genealogy Chat

Hello peeps,

I am rubbish at deciphering handwriting and wonder if anyone would take a look for me please?

1841 census

Thos Peak
born abt 1791, Middlesex

resident St Marylebone,

I can't work out his occupation. That's the only thing I need, thanks.

Cheryl

Could it be 'Brass' using the old fashioned long s?

Andy

I agree, definitely brass maker.

You can see on Ancestry samples of the handwriting

When i 1st started to look at the census i always have the tab open so i could compare the writing

Yes it is brass

Bear in mind that fs was used instead of ss

drefsmaker - dressmaker
Surname of Cass would be Cafs etc etc

Thank you all so much.

How interesting he was a brassmaker (interesting for me). I wonder why the 'fs' for double s?

Anyway a bit of a change from his previous occupation as bricklayer so will have to see if there are any other links before I can claim him as mine, :-)

edited to add, don't think he is mine so a bit stuck now. Oh well, such is family history.

Cheryl

Try looking for Peake

Thanks for the tip. This is my maiden name and you're quite right to suggest the extra e. I've trawled through names with just "pea" and "pee" and haven't seen anything in the area that looks quite right. Mind you, it does send you goggle eyed after a while :-/

I can't find the whole family which looks as if at least some of them should have still been together as there were four sons, all yet to marry at the time.

The parents die in 1849 but at the time are still living in the same area so should be on the census somewhere. Very frustrating.


There is a Thomas Peak living in Stepney who fits the age of the son I am particularly interested in. He is living with a Mary Ann who is just 15 and I am desperately trying to find out if she is a sister or a wife? This could be an important link to the family further on but it looks like this is going to be one of those long hauls that may lead to nowhere because of gaps in the records for whatever reason.

Hi, I know quite a bit but there is this gap that is bugging me, you know how they do?

Thomas Peak married Catherine Hazard 5 Oct 1818
Children's births (also have their baptism dates all in St Andrew, Holborn, Middx)
William b 30 Oct 1820
Thomas b 16 Nov 1822
Henry Walter b 3 Feb 1825
Charles Frederic 11 Aug 1828 The baptism records show that Thomas Snr was a bricklayer each time


I have found marriages for the 3 older boys so know they survive into adulthood.

I am wondering if there wre any more children and was hoping the 1841 census would give me a clue. It's just a gap that I would like to fill, like many. If I could find Thomas jnr in the 1841 census with his parents I could rule out the stepney Thomas living with 15 year old Mary Ann. Why this rankles is because there always seems to be such repetition with Christian names (as you will know) and Mary Ann pops up as a daughter on Thomas jnr. I keep wondering if there is a link.

It's Thomas that I am really interested in as he is my direct ancestor. He goes on to have 5 children with Catherine Sheering but frustratingly I can't find a marriage for them so cannot trace Catherine back any further.

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I'm rambling now and my message won't let me read what I am typing as I am typing it so I will stop here.

Thanks very much for your interest.

Cheryl

Thomas jnr in 1871 census shows him with 3 children, Ann (who is probably Amelia), Mary Ann and Thomas who is a baby at the time. They go on to have Henry and William but Thomas dies before the next census.

They live their lives around the Clerkenwell area.

Oh crikey, sorry, that should be 1851 not 1871. He's dead by 1871 and there is no census for them 1861 and guess this entry might be one of many 1861 entries lost in Middlesex.

Sorry again.

I can't find them in 1851 either. Have they been mistranscribed? What was Thomas jnr's wife's name?

Ozi

Well I think I eventually found Henry in 1851 who is recorded as being born in St Sepulchre. So is this a possibility for your family?

1841 England Census
Name: Henry Peck
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Sepulchre Without Newgate
Hundred: London Without the Walls
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: West Street

Registration district: West London
Sub-registration district: North
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Peck 50 - bricklayer
Ann Peck 55
Thomas Peck 15
William Peck 20 - Tailor
Henry Peck 15

All born in county.




1851 England Census
Name: Henry Peak
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Susan
Gender: Male
Where born: St Sepulchre; Within
Civil parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 15 Broard Yard

Occupation: Type Ruber [exactly as on the census]

Condition as to marriage: married

Registration district: Clerkenwell
Sub-registration district: St James Clerkenwell
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Peak 25
Susan Peak 24

Yay, thank you both for your trouble and a double thank you to Ozi for what looks like my family in 1841. Ann would have been Catherine in reality but the similarity in other details makes it look like it's them.

Not so sure about Henry on the 1851 census though, so will have a delve.

Thanks to you both once again.

Cheryl

1851 England Census
Name: William Peake
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Clerkenwell
Civil parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 35 Barton St

Occupation: Tailor

Registration district: Clerkenwell
Sub-registration district: Amwell
Household Members:
Name Age
William Peake 30
Mary Peake 38 - Windsor
William Peake 6 - St Lukes
Sarah Peake 3 - St Lukes
Henrietta Peake 2 - Clerkenwell

Polly,

To return to the spelling: it isn't actually F before the S but a long S as it should have no cross-bar as an F would.

Peter