Genealogy Chat

Or possibly the other way round Bryn i.e. moved out of town for the birth to avoid the gossips. Her father being a shipscleaner would suggest that they weren't too far from the sea and Norwich is much closer to the sea than Northampton.

Yes Chris, marriage was in St Margarets Chruch Norwich on 18th July 1914 (when the name Nellie Ellen Daniels was given). Elsie May Jones was born in Northampton on 7th October 1914 (when the name Ellen Louisa Daniels was given). On both occasions Alfred William Jones occupation was stated as acrobat. Your shotgun marriage out of town theory sounds credible. Thanks Bryn

Don't forget though Bryn that Elsie May was born in the same quarter and they were living in Northampton on her birth cert. When I found that marriage in Norwich I did say that they might have gone elsewhere to marry as it was shotgun. Was the marriage in a church by banns? If so I suppose they must have been living in Norwich though.

Bryn, sorry to say I am at a loss here. As there are a lot of replies others might not look, so try amending your heading to "More help needed 5th May" or similar!!
I wonder if they might have been travellers maybe? Just a thought.
Jan

Thanks Jan yes, thats the marriage. I believe I have located Nellie's birth record Nellie Louisa Daniels Mch 1890 Kidderminster 6c 228

problem is she used the names Ellen Louisa on a birth entry later on

Marriages Sep 1914 (>99%)
Daniels Nellie E Jones Norwich 4b 287
JONES Alfred W Daniels Norwich 4b 287

Have you located Nellie at all? (Getting a bit desperate now!)

Jan

Address on the marriage cert is very hard to read but it looks like "Picto Yd Westinct St" or similar. Sorry thats the best I can do. George Geoffrey Jones is listed as a shoemaker and the bride Nellie Ellen Daniels shows the same address, with her father Harry Daniels listed as Shipelance or similar

Very funny Bryn! Did a bad thing and edited post as you were replying so you might not have noticed question - any address?

No, I flipped over it too!

Goodness me, wasn't expecting that!! Did he have an address?
Jan

In 1914 Alfred William Jones' occupation was acrobat

There are only four in Norfolk, putting this just in case as father George:

1911 census - household transcription
Person: JONES, Alfred
Address: Themel Thorpe E Dereham Norfolk

JONES, George Head Married M 42 1869 Farmer Cambridgeshire Littleport VIEW
JONES, Annie Delilah Wife Married
21 years F 43 1868 Cambridgeshire Asham Ren VIEW
JONES, Walter Son Single M 20 1891 Farmers Son Working On Farm Norfolk Southery VIEW
JONES, Alfred Son Single M 19 1892 Farmers Son Working On Farm Norfolk Southery VIEW
JONES, George Son Single M 18 1893 Farmers Son Working On Farm Norfolk Southery VIEW
JONES, Elsie Daughter Single F 15 1896 Farmers Daughters Housework Norfolk Hilgay VIEW
JONES, Charlie Son M 13 1898 School Norfolk Foulden VIEW
JONES, Annie Daughter F 12 1899 School Norfolk Foulden VIEW
JONES, Albert Son M 11 1900 School Norfolk Foulden VIEW
JONES, William Son M 9 1902 Norfolk Foulden VIEW
JONES, Harold Son M 8 1903 Norfolk West Dereham VIEW
JONES, Olive Daughter F 4 1907 Norfolk Themelthorpe VIEW
JONES, Bessie Daughter F 1 1910 Norfolk Themelthorpe VIEW
JONES, Edith Maud Servant Single F 18 1893 General Servant Domestic Norfolk Reepham VIEW

Registration District:
Aylsham Sub District:
Eynsford Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Themelthorpe

Address:
Themel Thorpe E Dereham Norfolk County:
Norfolk

Do you have an occupation for him Bryn? Might help a bit with such a common name.
Jan

Can someone please check the 1911 census to find an Alfred William Jones born 1890. May be living with his father who used the name George Geoffrey Jones (though is suspect this is an assumed name). Possibly in or near Norwich as thats where AW Jones marriage took place in 1914

In addition to the above I'm interested in other family members who might be there. Thanks