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Hi, just wondered if anyone could help. After years of searching I have come across a baptism (birth not registered) of one of my ancestors Frances Kearns, daughter of Fabiani Kearnes and Mariae Grenham 19 APR 1840 St Austin'S,Forebridge Near, Stafford, Stafford, England on the IGI

I was hoping that the original parish records were going to be available at some recordoffice but unfortunately after finding the church records werelocated at Birmingham Archives, the years I am interestedin aremissing. They only have 1804 to 1831 and 1858 to 1891.

There is a batch number which gives a few more siblings but no source is given.

Does anyone know what is my next step to get this information, would it be available anywhere, I am interested in the years 1825 to around 1850 baptisms.

I thought I was getting somewhere at last.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Marilyn

Hi Marilyn, As far as I am aware you can order the register from the LDS and view them in your local centre. Don't know if this helps or not.

Regards, Lou

The family from 1851?


I think St Austins is a Catholic parish. Might it be worth trying the Catholic History Society?
Also have you tried Stafford Records Office? I've used them several times and found them very helpful.

1851 England Census
about Frances Kearns
Name: Frances Kearns
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Farrall
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Stafford, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Stafford St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Stafford
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9k
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 193
Household Members: Name Age
Farrall Kearns 54
Mary Kearns 49
John Kearns 21
Bridget Kearns 22
George Kearns 1
Jane Kearns 13
Frances Kearns 10
George Kearns 7


Andy

Lou, thanks for that I will have a look for my local office and look into it.

Andrew, yes that is the family in the 1851, although I can only find Farrell etc. inthe 1851 and 1871 census, both in St Marys Stafford. St Austins church is a Catholic church although Frances married in Manchester Cathedral a lot complicated. I will have to search the St Marys area churches on the off chance if I can get to Stafford Record Office sometime. Thanks for looking.

Go to "library catalogue"
Church records, 1804-1898
Authors Catholic Church. St. Austin (Forebridge near Stafford, Staffordshire) (Main Author)
Catholic Church. St. Augustine (Stafford, Staffordshire) (Added Author)

Notes Microreproduction of original records at the Diocesan Archives, Birmingham.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Some records in Latin.


Subjects England, Stafford, Forebridge (near Stafford) - Church records
England, Stafford, Stafford - Church records


Format Manuscript (On Film)
Language English
Latin
Publication Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1995
Physical on 2 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Thanks Jim, not sure I understand all that but Birmingham Diocesan Archives does not hold the dates I require. I have just emailed the church or someone relating to the church, maybe they can help.

Thanks for helping

Marilyn

Marily

Jim has found that information on familysearch.org

Go to the home page and follow his instructions



sylvia

this looks like family in 1841 different age

Name: Francis Kernes
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary and St Chad
Hundred: South Pirehill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Farrel Kernes 40
Mary Kernes 30
John Kernes 13
Jone Kernes 4 Jane
Francis Kernes 15
Jane Grimes 60
Bartle Green 15
John Onale 25
James Oconner 20


oops its a son not daughter

June x

Thank you Jim and Sylvia, I have done that, do I order a film number to view at my local record office and how do I go about it, do I email them. Sorry if I sound a bit `dumb`, not done this on IGI before.

There is another branch which I need to verify in this way, maybe I could sort that at the same time.

Thanks for you help

Marilyn

1861

Name: Farnell Kearins
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Dublin, Ireland

Civil parish: Stafford St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Stafford
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Farnell Kearins 67
Mary Kearins 61
Bridget Kearins 28 Daughter-in-law
George Kearins 12 Grandson
James Kearins 9 Grandson
Hannah Kearins 3 grandaughter
John Kearins 11 Mo Grandson





June x

death

Name: Farrol Kearns
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 73
District: Stafford
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 7 (click to see others on page)

June, thanks so much for that census information, that isthe family but the name spellings change so much, I couldnt find them.

I will try to find them now I know they exist andlook at the original image, thanks a lot

Marilyn

I have just brought forward for you a thread on this board giving details of LDS Centres if you wish to contact one. Hope it helps.

LDS Centres.
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=700916

Thank you Joy, i will look for onenear me.

Marilyn

I asked a church member about the entry.
It is not a parish record.
It is a member submitted entry in 2009.
It is waiting for a baptism then will become a sealing for the dead!!???

Thanks for all your replies, I did manage to spend a couple of hours at Stafford Record Office and on the off chance asked about the years I needed and St Austins and luckily they said that they did have them at that record office. I wasnt expecting to find them there as it said on the internet they were at Birmingham, and missing some years.

I did find a lot of information, including the baptism of Frances Kearns and most of her siblings.

Thanks again for your advice.

Marilyn