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I have Clara Yapp 1887 living with the Fellows in 1901 in Cannock Staffs how do I find out why she was a Yapp and not a Fellows as her parents christian names relate to the Fellows in the house? Carol

Hi,

Looks like Clara is from a previous marriage or a child born before her mother married.......... look at the age gap between her and the next child;

1901 England Census
about Clara Yapp
Name: Clara Yapp
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Benjamin
Mother's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Chadsmoor, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Cannock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Cannock
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Cannock
Sub-registration district: Cannock
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 199
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Fellows 31
James Fellows 31
Mabel Fellows 7
Benjamin Fellows 6
Horace Fellows 5
Maggie Fellows 2
Clara Yapp 14


Dee x

You could also order her birth cert.......... this will give you her parents names;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
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Yapp Clara Cannock 6b 523



Dee x

Surname mistranscribed;

1891 England Census
about Clara Gapp
Name: Clara Gapp
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Chadsmoor, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Cannock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Chadsmoor
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Cannock
Sub-registration district: Cannock
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Trickell 50
Sarah Trickell 49
Ellen Trickell 23 <<<<<<< Image states YAPP, single
John Trickell 15 <<<<<<<Yapp
William Trickell 8 <<<<<<Yapp
Clara Gapp 4
Alice Gapp 5/12


Lets see where this takes us.

Dee x

So here's the Grandparents of Clara's marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
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FLETCHER Ellen Cannock 6b 603
RICHARDS Joseph Cannock 6b 603
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Trickett James Cannock 6b 603
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yapp Sarah Cannock 6b 603

1871 England Census
about Sarah Yapp
Name: Sarah Yapp
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Aston Botterell, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Milson
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Cleobury Mortimer
Sub-registration district: Cleobury Mortimer
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
James Yapp 41
Sarah Yapp 27
Mary Ann Yapp 13
Louisa Yapp 12
Harry Yapp 4
Ellen Yapp 3 <<<<<<<<<<<<< on 1891 census
Catherine Yapp 1
Mary Ann Yapp 71
Mary Ann Lewis 44
John Lewis 8
John Bishop 16


1881 England Census
about Sarah Yapp
Name: Sarah Yapp
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Aston Bithel, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Cannock
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Cecil St.
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Charwoman

Registration district: Cannock
Sub-registration district: Cannock
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Yapp 36
Catherine Yapp 11
Alice Yapp 10
John Yapp 5 <<<<<<<<<<< on the 1891 census

Maybe Ellens marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
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Artheell Frances Cannock 6b 747
Arthrell Frances Cannock 6b 747
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Haycock Frederick Cannock 6b 747
Haycock Fredrick Cannock 6b 747
Pitchford Henry Cannock 6b 747
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yapp Ellen Cannock 6b 747

Little Alices' birth;

Births Dec 1890 (>99%)
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Yapp Alicce Haycock Cannock 6b 462



So I would say the Yapp/ Haycock marriage looks good

1901 England Census
about Alice Haycock
Name: Alice Haycock
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frederick
Mother's Name: Nellie
Gender: Female
Where born: Chadgmorr, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Cannock
Ecclesiastical parish: Cannock St Luke
Town: Cannock
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Cannock
Sub-registration district: Cannock
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 187
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Haycock 42
Nellie Haycock 34 <<<< Ellen Yapp
Alice Haycock 10
Lizzie Haycock 5
Frederick Haycock 1 month



Residing in a lodging house with lots of others.


I can't see a connection to the Fellows family, not even to Jane who I beleive was a Benton before marriage.............. think you'll have to order Claras birth cert to clear this 1 up!!!


Dee x

1911 free search shows she is working as a domestic;

HOUSEHOLD YAPP CLARA F 1887 24 Oldham Lancashire

with her?

HOUSEHOLD SHAW EPHRAIM M 1859 52 Oldham Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD SHAW LOUISA ELIZABETH F 1860 51 Oldham Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD SHAW LOUISA ELIZABETH F 1860 51 Oldham Lancashire

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH............ look again at the 1901 census, she's a DOMESTIC!!!!!! So the Daur bit must be a mistake and she is working for the Fellows family, silly me!!


Dee x

Thanks for your help will try birth cert n marriage cert,Carol

Carol

It's interesting, the 1901 does say "daughter' under relationship ......... but occupation is Domestic

The father Benjamin is a Coal Hewer

So either ............ she is a daughter of a previous marriage being treated as a domestic servant, or there is no actual relationship between them, and the entry in the raltionship column was a mistake by the enumerator.

Carol ............... you do realise that after all that research that Dee did, Clara Yapp could be just the General Domestic Servant for the Fellows don't you?


She could well have no relationship to them at all.


You should always attempt to open the census image and see what it says about relationship and occupation!




BTW ....... James Fellows age 31 on the 1901 Census is actually JANE ........ Benjamin's wife, and mother of the children!





sylvia

Marriage of Benjamin and Jane

Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)-

Baggott James Cannock 6b 843
>>>>>BENTON Jane Cannock 6b 843
CARELESS Emma Cannock 6b 843
>>>>>Fellows Benjamin Cannock 6b 843




sylvia

Thanks Sylvia I dont know how to open up the cencus but in the ancesters an Amy Paddock 1862 married a Joeseph Fellowsc1860 dont know if its the same link of Fellows Lots of you are so good at getting info I wish I was like you all,Carol